Posted 7/12/2009 7:56 AM (#15862 - in reply to #15858) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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Posts: 546 Location: Vancouver, Washington USA UMS student
The one is not more important than the two, and the two is not more important than the one, for each is required for the others existence. That is the eternal continuum.
Posted 7/12/2009 9:23 PM (#15879 - in reply to #15719) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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The joys of Philosophy eh? what did you mean Robert when you said; there are no absolutes which of course is an absolute" ? does that translates into no matter how widely sourced your views, they are in essence the same as aquarius's veiws - they come from the human experience - however you two have come by this infomation - both of your veiws can't be the be all end all i'm not sure of what part of infinite possiblities doesnt compute maybe 99.9% but both of your experiences and views are a tiny spec of dust floating on the oceans of drowned thinkers remains - you are both comeing from the same place from "my" interpretation - that place has your energy if you could remove your energy and feed me your view it would cease to be your view but just something floating in a void i guess what im saying is your both attachted to much for me to want to subscribe if you came from a point of nothing with something then i would be intrigued - Knowledge is a dark hole that doesn't end with an absolute fighting a mute - a paradox climbing a paradigm - it can be said that there isn't any truth in men for men are only a product of an infinite time consumeing a trend when the fashion changes who's left wearing red?
You can both put that in your pipes and smoke it :') http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUXBCdt5IPg
Posted 7/12/2009 10:32 PM (#15880 - in reply to #15879) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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We have the right to act in the universe, but we don't have control of the reaction. We can balance are actions with our reactions, but once we act the reaction occurs automatically. We reap what we sow. If we act out of balance, the reaction will be out of balance. You can't cheat reality. If you believe in debt and the "free ride,"
no amount of "positve thinking" or "wish fulfillment" is going to take you or create you out of that debt. "The universe will work with you but not for you." If you are not truly in alignment with the principles of the universe, eventually you realize your misalignment with universal principle. 2 + 2 = 4 in the universe. 2 + 2 dose not = 7.
You can't just will it so and create a universe where its true that 2 + 2 = 4 and 2 + 2 = 7 where both equations are true at the same time. That is an absolute.
The universe is composed of absolutes.
You can put that in your pipe and smoke it too. Absolutes are real.
Posted 7/13/2009 12:11 AM (#15881 - in reply to #15879) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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Not the same views to answer your question. It does not mean no matter how widley sourced, my views are the same. They are not the same views. No matter how similar they might appear to you. Ah! But there is truth in men, and that is an absolute. Tap in and align.
"...it can be said that there isn't any truth in men for men are only a product of an infinite time consumeing a trend when the fashion changes who's left wearing red?"
This is a statement from the wishful universe where 2 + 2 = 4 and 2 + 2 = 7 at the same time.
But who is John Galt and Absolute Sovereigncy anyway?
Posted 7/13/2009 3:39 AM (#15883 - in reply to #15880) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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Reality? is 2 really 2? what makes 2? you make 2? your 2 is my 7 i make my 2 a 4 and 4 is really a 7 depending on the state of persistence and the fundamentals of existence 7 is 4 + 2 = 6 - 6 = 11 11 still is 7 - 7 is 4 + 2 = 13 is 6 in 7 - 7 is 6 + 2 = 28 :') The reflection is my direction the way to sample selection endless possiblities calculating informalities in a dream of reality.
Posted 7/13/2009 3:05 PM (#15887 - in reply to #15719) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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i get the 28= 1 thing... that is numerology.... but the other numbers... We'll let you stick to your own reality.... Those are not part of this universal math language.
In other dimensions perhaps numbers are incorrect... Who knows... Someone may just be smoken some good herbs. Perhaps one should also pass the doobage for us to better understand that one.
Posted 7/13/2009 8:37 PM (#15894 - in reply to #15719) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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yea a few joints some acid then half of a bottle of rum then abit of type typey on the ums forums )
jimi hendrix + %$#^up math = drugs?
this aligning you speak of - your are saying that i can align to make my 2 as your 2? i was taught that 2 was 7? so can i align to bring my 7 into 2? using? learning? incorparating?Reality is different for everyone as you said Robert your views are not the same - they can't be unless your 2 is aquarius 2 did universe make 2?
is a stone really a stone did we learn the qualities of stone is it not possible to change the qualities of stone? can blood come from a stone? can reality change to conform to your wishful willful thinking? i create my own reality can i endorces mine onto you? did a machine roller print its reality onto me? My reality is a day dream like a night dream i can choose what i want to watch, if i ever get bored i can always take some of grampa's cough medicine and listen to some scott mckenzie haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdvCqUguIh8
Posted 7/13/2009 8:57 PM (#15895 - in reply to #15719) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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behind the interpretations / misinterpretations / communication can't work 100% it relys on different realities i can see the need for an alignment... we all are already aligned as one - there is communication that doesn't have room for misinterpretations it still lives in the eyes and hearts of chilled out kids - anyway behind the different realities reflects your/mine one true reality - this understanding shouldnt be aligned to a math equation or a lingo persuadtion or the knowledge you reap what you sow because you are not what you reap or sow you still may watch yourself grow or trip out on a doobiewacka but either way you arnt your lingo or a problem solver just the energy locked deep below the walls of the body and soul - your consiousness a self serving dream without dependancy on reality. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-KFmh7deq4 :')
Posted 7/14/2009 12:16 AM (#15897 - in reply to #15896) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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There is no "God." There is order. The one order of the two forces. There is no monolithic "oneness." And this universe is finite and is a process. For want of better words, a "holographic" process.
Posted 7/14/2009 12:40 AM (#15900 - in reply to #15896) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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i see you both online...hello...zen & alxm, absolute soveriegncy
it's interesting to have 2 different views
2 can come from 1
1 can come from 2
if there is 2, then there is a division is it not?
if there is 1, then there is a unity of division is it not?
God is just a concept where all can work as one doing different things.
disorder is just a concept where all is doing many things but not working as one.
then one must choose the one that works for a higher purpose and happiness...
we divided in the womb of our mum to be a greater being that helps maintain the one body...now we consume different things to maintain the one
suppose we need different experiences to be whole and back to the one?
i see my retirement has been shaken by these two folks....hahahhaha
Posted 7/14/2009 12:45 AM (#15901 - in reply to #15897) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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Order? Who's Order? Orders Order? yes this universe is finite our sun will eventually supernova each supernova explodes with the same brightness and effects as the rest creating a black hole that rips around threw space collideing with everything else in space - this is order? :')
Posted 7/14/2009 12:49 AM (#15902 - in reply to #15901) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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hmmm? where there is an order - there is an owner - who is the owner of this order?
you and me?
or everyone?
or God that overseas the balancing required for such order?
consider a very messy life that of failure and betrayal - is this an order that can be avoided? My belief is 'yes'.
a person who is very organized would know what I mean...
Posted 7/14/2009 1:22 AM (#15909 - in reply to #15906) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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i am as dense as anyone else as i live - impossible to be holographic to the naked eye...hahahah
although my spirit is holographic - which can't be seen by the naked eye
that which is holographic can be controlled by the physical or that which is physical can be controlled by the holographic
we often make mistakes when the physical has too much control over the holographic...however some mistakes will probably look less like mistakes when god blesses it to turn it into meaningful experience to take away the suffering and sorrows - or perhaps provide us with more soothing experiences - like a helping hand and good company...
you amuse me with your interesting bantering too...
Posted 7/14/2009 1:38 AM (#15911 - in reply to #15907) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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absolute, responding to : 'does it not take two to balance?'
if the question is posing at the relationship between 2 people:
if there is already 2 to balance - they don't need another one to balance (i am referring to queer threesomes)
if there is already 2 giving life to another one - then that is the ultimate balance for 'them'
if the 2 within the person has balanced (which can be possible among some spiritual people) - then where is the problem?
if there is a replacement for 1 and 1 to be 2, then where is the problem?
overall - it really depends on what angle the question is posing at.
If it is posing on our lifestyle - like diet
2 is not sacred - many food is sacred
if it is posing on our need for money
$2 is probably not a sacred number for some people's lifestyle - one may starve
if it is posing on our need for rooms in a house
2 rooms is probably not sacred to a family of seven children - it will be abit too cramped
Posted 7/14/2009 1:47 AM (#15912 - in reply to #15911) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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naturopaths dispense medicine combined with alcohol
cough drops are filled with alcohol (menthol)
flower essence medicine are preserved by alcohol
chinese medicine have some interesting ingredients that does not exclude alcohol
welcome to the world of healers...
for further discussion - feel free to google me - you will find me if need be - i do need to be at rest from this discussion board now - peace
Posted 7/14/2009 2:36 AM (#15913 - in reply to #15756) Subject: RE: The Eternal Dance of the Masculine and the Feminine
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dear absov,you say your wife is your feminine,each of us has a male and female side,maybe you refuse to accept this,i,e your feminine side,or maybe you think its not macho too admit you have a feminine side,its a bit like the baking of a cake,to make it whole and comlete,we have to have all the ingredients right.As for the question of 2 being sacred,to me the 2 are mother earth,father universe,sky,it takes 2 to tango,or maybe you prefer to dance on your own,irisx
Posted 7/14/2009 8:25 PM (#15924 - in reply to #15719) Subject: RE: Why is two sacred?
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Hello....... Zen.....anything I have ever said about you in this life or in past lives I take back 777X7! You mentioned one name that tells me you are a...a.....a....I don't know, but since we share that knowledge (or maybe just the name) it makes you my friend...whether reciprocated or not. I absolutely love upside down guitarists (left handedness is a bit of a problem). Greatness triumphs anyway! Lyonna.....hello, again.
P & L, Marty and Kcul, ppoP, and ssiS...these are my handicats....and I love them!
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