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Location: United Kingdom | Hello and congratulations, Brother Leo
I am not sure to whom or about whom your comments are directed and since in my personal history I have sought to take nothing personally (according to Ruiz) yet take everything personally (according to Klein);
all I might reasonably say (notwithstanding the papacy was not established at the aforesaid time; though foolishness remains the best path to Wisdom)
is, 'Why UMS?'
... 'But of course'
Edited by Paul Joseph 8/12/2009 6:03 PM
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Location: The Heart of Space | Hello Brutha Leeeeeeooooooooo....
Would you be so kind as to tell us what Dr. Masters you are talking about?
Could it be R.L Masters?????? He Dead!
Could it be R.E.L Masters....the same guy.
I am going to wait to hear from you and then tell you the story....as his story and his book, autographed, sit on one of my shelves. It is in the 4 pod that are in my master bedroom. The irony of that escapes me!
Peace and More....
Marty and Luck, Popp and Siss
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Location: North Georgia | Leo - 12 Cats - Oh my!  I thought we were the zoo of the neighborhood (5 cats, 2 dogs, 2 chickens, 3 chicks [neighbor's rooster escaped and came to visit LOL] some fish and 5 teenagers) If you are wondering - yes I do come here to escape occasionally  .
Anyway your post brought to mind the old saying, "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear!" I believe that those who resonate to Mr. Masters school need to hear what he has to say and the lessons he brings to them and those who choose to come here relate to Ms. Breese and what lessons she brings. (You and your wife are prime examples - if you enjoy it here and she enjoys it there - then you are both in the right place  )
What is important is that we each individually do what we need to do for our individual experience. Feel what we resonate with and follow that path, trust yourself that you made the right choice and be open to all that is available to you! |
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Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida | Katrina,
12 cats and one dog. In my wife's and my case we were led by her spirit guide. Linda (my wife) has had several years channeling her guide, at first she wasn't sure what was happening. After about 3 years I met him and things have been moving right along. In truth I was directed by him that I was to enroll at UMS. I was going to put it off but he said no, do it now. As you said, the student was ready, however the student was at a loss. The Master spoke and I signed up right away. It's been great. I'm now starting on my Masters of Divinity and my wife is just about to finish hers.
We have learned much form both the schools as well as Linda's spirit guide. It wouldn't be fair to compare the two as the Master of All Things is by far superior in his vastness of universal knowledge. He has stated that it is impossible for us to understand the complexities of the universe, perhaps in many more life experiences.
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Location: United Kingdom | Surely, Katrina dear, you mean Dr Breese ?
I personally am no fan of cats, since they continue to decimate the wild birds of our garden. |
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Location: North Georgia | Yes, Paul - Thank you. I stand corrected please accept my apologies! I must have been seeing her younger self when I posted !
My cats aren't the hunters like most. Actually all our animals are weird ones, and all of them are strays except the chickens. Occasionally the young ones will catch a mouse in the garage or something and bring it to me (alive). And our chickens just had 3 chicks; all are free range - locked up only at night so other animals don't get them.
I guess, my animals know that I have a habit of taking in strays and hurt animals and helping them. And the cats know somehow that if it is on our property they are not to bother it - very strange but they know.
In fact - I had just planted my herb garden after winter passed in pots on my front porch. A couple of robins decided to build a nest in the middle pot, right above the catnip and below the basil in the corner. I gently moved their nest to the dogwood tree in the front yard (about 15-20 feet away). They moved it back - 3 times! So I let it be and told the cats (yes - I talk to them ) to let them be. I also found at that time a blue birds nest in our hedge w/ 4 eggs. In between the dogwood and porch. Well the robins laid 3 eggs - 2 hatched, the blue birds hatched 3. None of the cats bothered any of them. In fact my oldest (the one that had the accident) actually guarded them from the feral cat that had begun hanging around. He wouldn't let him near 'his baby birds' (or maybe I'm just wishful thinking and it was really the catnip he was guarding all this time - LOL ) I'll have to ask him - LOL
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Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida | Hello all, We have had a couple of issues with our cat's and birds. It's a shame that you can't see how the birds treat our cats. The birds around us have taken to attacking our cats. I must assume that they are protecting their nests. It is quite a scene to watch the cats being pecked on the backsides as they are running across the yard. Paul would especially like that. |
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| Moderator Nef says: This was removed due to spam. We do not suggest other people writing papers for anyone, as that would be wasting your money and the entire purpose of learning.
This poster will be removed from the forum!
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Location: United Kingdom | Is that an ad Ferty ? I am not familiar with that site .... buying essays might defeat the object, no ? |
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Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida | Isn't the idea of a thesis to research and to gleen new knowledge? I believe anyone who buys a paper is cheating themselves. |
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Location: California, USA | ...or you could look at it as payment and appreciation for the time and research the author has spent into putting the paper together. It's a matter of perspective, I guess. *shrug* |
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Location: United Kingdom | My perspective though is that the validation of a UMS practitioner certificate/academic award bestows something on the individual who has undertaken the programme; if the thesis component of that has not been completed by the individual claiming competence, but has purchased it through the offices of another, then that element of the competence cannot be so claimed, the individual's standing is not credible, and the programme itself, if it in any way condones that practice, also becomes undermined and open to criticism.
Someone seeking the assistance, guidance, or whatever, of a UMS qualified practitioner must, it seems to me, have the confidence that the practitioner has her or himself completed all elements of the programme; otherwise that someone seeking assistance is open to exploitation, and the whole exercise is a cynical purchasing of what becomes ultimately a worthless piece of paper; a 'diploma mill', as I believe the expression over there is.
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Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida | Well said Paul, that's exactly the kind of thing that a metaphysical school should avoid at all costs. There is enough questioning from the general public about the nature of our type of non secular education. There has been on this post a person (DoDa??) who accused another sister school of being a "Diploma Mill". Enough, we must keep the level of metaphysical education beyond reproach. We must keep in mind the type of bias that Christine Breese has faced in her dealings with the State of California.
If someone wants to be an author, let them write something more significant than a paper that someone else will claim as their own.
Thank you Paul for pointing out the need for honesty and pride in our educational goals. |
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Location: The Heart of Space | Hello all:
Alfred Russell Wallace and Charles Darwin wrote the same things at the same time. Yet, credit is given for a "theory" of evolution to Darwin, and Wallace is not heard from again until several other books are published.
If one reads "The Islands....." and other of Sir Wallace's travel books, one will find a pattern of expression. This way of saying things is distingusihable from others. If one reads the work of Darwin in "The Descent of Man" which comes after "On the Origin of Species" one may well find patterns of expression that are contrary to "On The Origin of Species"...patterns of expression that sound more like another author..one whom is just as familiar with the subject matter; and one whom we can trace affectations of writing via some travel books.
To the point, I live in an academic environment. My perspective, which is kind, is that cheating and plagiarism is rampant and accepted as a course of action amongst students. Particularly amongst older students.....as my school favors working adults as opposed to incoming freshman living in dorms. The frosh don't get bold enough to cheat and plagiarize until sophomore-junior years. The working world adults cheat and plagiarize from day one! They bring to the classroom the skills that they have learned from the working world. In our supervised exams, one must turn over all electronic devices.....but in our on-line exams, it is honor system..though the questions are spontanepous and random...even then..we run software programs to recognize strings of published text..just to be sure that someone did not cut and paste...and if you want the sad truth.....many of our students do just that....with the later on excuse that they didn't "know" that they had to give credit because it was on "THE INTERNET"......which is free of any restraint.
Notwithstanding recent events, I am firm in my belief that UMS is a fine school, and one well worth the money, if one does what is required...not that there is any pressure to do anything other than the academic integrity to pass the courses. But, the courses are like flowers with many petals....one can certainly read some pages and take an exam...but when one digs deep into the readings that provide foundation to the course..then knowledge does what it is supposed to do....and that is impart itself from one to another, in a never ending chain.
I will state how I see Paul's point so there can be no misunderstanding.....and he, as a friend, is welcome to chastise me if necessary......if you cheat you demean the school known as UMS......and I say in response that since the first classes ever held, the U Paris...spanning time to the USA....Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, Princeton have all had those whose academic integrity has been questionable at best. If you cheat, you do not demean the institution, you say somethng about yourself...a thing that you will always know and never be able to hide from YOU. Your joys in success will always be tainted by the knowledge that you were not true to yourself.
For me, that is enough justice!
Sorry...WE forgot to say who we are, so that you will know who to do to as you will:
Marty and Luckylee, Poppyhead, and the Sissygirl
P.S. In the 1500's the U Paris students would routinely go into town and drink and debauch , and the gendarmes would often shoot them. Things haven't changed too much, other than the kids now shoot the gendarmes. Progress..nesc't pas?
Edited by mruppert 9/5/2009 2:37 AM
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Location: United Kingdom | Thanks Leo ... funny Marty I guess, how perspectives and opinions can differ
I was responding from the level of a 'regulated practitioner', who is required to adhere to external regulation to protect standards; also in another capacity I regulate those standards; and am aware of how vulnerable people can be exploited by some supposedly in 'authority', who act as if they are 'laws unto themselves'.
However, as some in authority have gone through various kinds of qualification systems, clearly systems are not foolproof; but I think they are the best we can do. Although of course Freud, in his Question of Lay Analysis, was actually opposed to training requirements, as he said the 'market' would determine who was an effective practitioner and who was not (in his case, psychoanalysis). My judgement, for what it is worth, is that there has been too much abuse of others to simply allow a market 'hidden hand' to determine who practices and who sets out to help others and who not.
I write also, as one who has experienced various forms of healing and therapy, so as with vulnerabilities of my own. I have had to have some measure of determining who might be helpful and who might not. Also, experience of institutional bullying in religious environments.
Yet again, many of the great spiritual teachers had few qualifications so far as we know: though Jesus may have been the son of a carpenter. If so, he may have for a time followed in his father's footsteps. If he did, did carpenters make crosses?!
Back to more whimsical matters ... Katrina, maybe your cats are embodying your loving and benign nature? My sparrows have returned after many weeks, put off by a couple of murdered pigeons maybe .... sparrows and wild birds are becoming increasingly rare here due, in great part to cats - yours do indeed sound like tough nuts, Leo (and thanks for the affirmation, by the way) ....
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