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Supernatural3
Posted 4/15/2016 5:03 PM (#27234)
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Hi all,

I have been reading post after post after post about Christian ways. I personally am way past Christianity and way past any organized religion. I have been getting hit with people who are not wanting to be here because the only discussions are constantly Jesus related. I am asking to please post in a Christian based thread or create one here. The topic is huge and can have it's own thread but lets keep religion out of every single thread. I cannot thank everyone enough for understanding the need for spirit, non agenda.

Some great metaphysical topics to discuss:

Were did we come from? With the billions and billions of galaxies, i can assure you that life is bigger than any individual. The cosmo's, stars, a higher divine energy....

Lets please take the fame and focus and place it on what this forum is about METAPHYSICS.

In this thread, I ask that Christianity not be pushed in any way shape or form. I am not looking to down any religion, but I want a place for NO RELIGION for a change.

Can we please have a conversation about Metaphysics?

Its desperately needed to have a religion free place at this time....

Many Blessings and Thank You for understanding the need to pursue physics, only unlimited~ <3

 

 

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Aquarius
Posted 4/16/2016 6:37 AM (#27235 - in reply to #27234)
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Dear Jill,

Thank you for taking the matter in hand. If you are continuing to read what I have to say about the theme of spirituality versus religion, you undoubtedly know that my writings always have been way beyond the - in my view - long outdated religions of our world, all of them. It's just that some folks are as yet unready to grasp the concept that the man Jesus never existed, that all along he has served as a symbolism - a teaching aid - through which the wisdom of the Highest was brought closer to humankind, until the truth about him could finally be revealed. And whether some of us like this fact or not, that time is NOW.

With love - Aquarius

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Paul Joseph
Posted 4/16/2016 9:29 AM (#27240 - in reply to #27235)
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Agreed Jill

Though clearly some people have different ideas about what religions, opinions, facts and history are ....

To say nothing of Metaphysics



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Aquarius
Posted 4/16/2016 9:50 AM (#27241 - in reply to #27234)
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The Age of Aquarius is bringing us an age of friendship and siblinghood with all life and equal rights for every one of God’s children of the Earth, independent of their gender, colour of their skin and nationality. With all my heart and soul I believe that the day will come – in the not too distant future – when the wisdom of the feminine, in the form of the women of all countries, who to this day is suppressed by religious beliefs, will once more be making its presence felt and voice heard. Through this the balance of our world will at last be restored and the present religious beliefs everywhere will come to their natural end, to make room for the religion of the Aquarian Age:

There is only one religion, the religion of love.
There is only one country, the whole of Mother Earth.
There is only one race, the race of humankind.
There is only one gender, who is androgynous, whole and holy.
There is only one language, the language of the heart.
And there is only one God, the God of love,
The Great Father/Mother of all life
And I, their only born Son/Daughter.
We are one Holy Trinity, who is
Omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient.

The religion of the new age is a creed that is no longer of the head and earthbound, the way the old religions were. It is of the heart and belongs to the metaphysical realms of life. It has its foundation in the fact that every human heart is part of the living and beating heart of the whole of Creation. Our heart knows the truth and what is right or wrong. And my heart tells me that the unification of all countries and their people is part of God’s great evolutionary plan for us and our world.

With love and light,
Aquarius
 
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Disa
Posted 4/16/2016 10:09 AM (#27242 - in reply to #27234)
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I agree, Jill.

Maybe the metaphysics thread can be in the enrolled student section. I don't think we are utilizing that section enough.

Aquarius, I think you are doing the opposite of what Jill has asked in this thread.

Supernatural3 - 4/15/2016 5:03 PM
but lets keep religion out of every single thread.


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Aquarius
Posted 4/16/2016 2:28 PM (#27243 - in reply to #27242)
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Hello Disa,

Thank you for your input. How right you are! It had already occurred to me that the word 'religion' is not quite the right one to use in connection with the new faith that is presently in the process of unfolding. As the word religion has too many unpleasant and negative connotations for lots of people these days, I am replacing it with 'faith' - which is a much better description of what is happening in any case. Therefore, the extract posted earlier now reads as follows:

'The Age of Aquarius is bringing us an age of friendship and siblinghood with all life and equal rights for every one of God’s children of the Earth, independent of their gender, colour of their skin and nationality. With all my heart and soul I believe that the day will come – in the not too distant future – when the wisdom of the feminine, in the form of the women of all countries, who to this day is suppressed by religious beliefs, will once more be making its presence felt and voice heard. Through this the balance of our world will at last be restored and the present religious beliefs everywhere will come to their natural end, making room for the faith of the Aquarian Age:

'There is only one faith, the faith of love.
There is only one country, the whole of Mother Earth.
There is only one race, the race of humankind.
There is only one gender, who is androgynous, whole and holy.
There is only one language, the language of the heart.
And there is only one God, the God of love,
The Great Father/Mother of all life
And I, their only born Son/Daughter.
We are one Holy Trinity, who is
Omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient.

'This faith of the new age is a creed that is no longer of the head and earthbound, the way the old religions were. It is of the heart and belongs to the metaphysical realms of life because it has its foundation in the fact that every human heart is part of the living and beating heart of the whole of Creation. Our hearts know the truth and what is right or wrong. And my heart tells me that the unification of all countries and their people, including India and Pakistan’s, is part of God’s great evolutionary plan for us and our world.

'I do believe that the conflicts that to this day are damaging both countries in equal measure will eventually be resolved in harmonious ways and without further bloodshed. There has been far too much of it throughout our whole world and in my vision it has become a place where national boundaries no longer exist and everybody lives in peace in harmony with their neighbours, locally, nationally and internationally.'

With love - Aquarius

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Supernatural3
Posted 4/16/2016 4:26 PM (#27245 - in reply to #27234)
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It would be great to dig deep into psychic abilities.... with that being beyond physics, how is it possible that in using a form of divination can indeed predict and im talking freaky deaky stuff.... having an image, seeing it, saying it, having it happen right after.... is there a blip in the matrix?

I'm not going to even discuss belief systems right now because i personally need a break from it and long for some divination topics. One of the core reasons i studied so harshly into metaphysics. Without all the courses it would be very hard to discuss deeply about the divination portions. I'm actually going to write another dissertation on numerology.... I've had some really cool ways of playing with numbers.

Perhaps going into the student section is where some advanced class topics can or should go because of relation to the classes many have taken here. I'm just trying to throw in some more topics.... change it up with zero judgement.

I see no wrong here.... i just see boredom. Let's spice it up. ...

Why am i constantly getting signs that tell me. ... yep, I'm where i am supposed to be. I'll explain later because super long posts lose ones train of thought.

Thank you to all who do share from their heart, All of you. ...
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Aquarius
Posted 4/17/2016 7:27 AM (#27246 - in reply to #27245)
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Hello Jill,

I have no taste for divination, other than working hand in hand with the Divine and Its Angels. That's the direction in which my psychic abilities - everybody has them - have and still are developing. But I am looking forward to your dissertation on numerology.

Have a good Sunday.

With love - Aquarius

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Disa
Posted 4/17/2016 8:01 AM (#27248 - in reply to #27234)
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Jill.I'm very interested in psychic development, numerology, and divination topics. I'd much rather discuss them in the student section than on the open forum.

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Paul Joseph
Posted 4/17/2016 8:34 AM (#27249 - in reply to #27248)
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I posted a couple of things in past days on the student section, including something on meditations, would be interested in others' views/experiences.
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Supernatural3
Posted 4/17/2016 10:03 AM (#27251 - in reply to #27234)
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Ok, thank you all for very valuable input. It is divination that brings out so much. ... i will start a few, or revive some in the other section and is nice to see more and more people here. When i discuss more on numerology, i will also keep some public as well.

Lots of hugs and blessings
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Aquarius
Posted 4/18/2016 6:55 AM (#27262 - in reply to #27245)
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Psychic Gifts

The Universe has endowed every soul with psychic gifts which are waiting to be developed. They are there, even if they cannot yet be recognised on the surface of our consciousness and accessed. It’s just that in some people they are still dormant while others are already using theirs. This is accentuated in the three Water signs Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces. Each new lifetime spent in one of them offers human souls many opportunities for developing these gifts to their highest potential.

This they do by being used unselfishly for the relief of human suffering and for shedding light into the darkest corners of our earthly  existence. To enable them to do this, people born into one of the Water signs are emotionally and psychically highly sensitive souls. Out of these Cancer is the most prone to absorbing any of the negative vibrations in their environment. Cancerians thrive in positive atmospheres, but where negativity and bad feelings are in the air they are in danger of wilting.

Water on the ascendant is often linked with at least a degree of clairvoyance and the ability to ‘see’ into our other world, and souls born with their Sun and especially the Moon in one of the Water signs are usually very good at sensing what is going on around them. Cancer is the most psychic sign of the zodiac. Frequently unbeknown to themselves, those born into this sign are capable of absorbing the vibrations of depressed people. Unless they take precautions and learn to protect themselves psychically, in due course they too may become seriously depressed.

Although heightened sensitivity at times feels more like a curse, in truth it is a precious gift and like any of them this one is in need of further development and taking great care of. That’s why wise sensitives make it their business to find out all about psychic protection that helps them close off, so that they are no longer in danger of acting as psychic sponges of others.

The more our spiritual awareness increases, the more sensitive and open we become to all psychic influences from other levels of life, positive and constructive ones as much as detrimental and negative ones. Whenever we have to go through hurtful or negative experiences or maybe just sense that we are in some way in danger of absorbing the negativity of those around us, we benefit from protecting ourselves and our psychic space. Whether negative vibrations come towards us from this level of life or any other, intentionally or otherwise, I believe that it is essential to ensure that at all times we are surrounded by a protective shield of light.

From ‘Astrology On The Healing Journey’
 
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Supernatural3
Posted 4/18/2016 1:01 PM (#27267 - in reply to #27234)
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When placing a belief in thinking that we NEED protection, we actually create that need. The more we think the need is needed, the more the need becomes so. As with all forms of divinity, imagine the purity and trust in the source of energy, light and no protection is needed because full belief requires no fear. Faith in pure energy brings knowlegde. The Tarot when mixed with Astrology (some good interpritations of the signs here) gives great wisdom. It foretells another moment as in the now, and is all good, just remember to this or that.

Divinity is everything..... It's the sun shining and casting a shadow. ... It's the automatic move of a muscle.... by chance that happens to coincedentally choose a better now in another moment. ...

Divinity is how we find water, food and etc.

I cannot suggest taking UMSs divinity courses enough for clearer understanding of what I'm talking about. ....

There is nothing to fear. .... no way to fail. Choose to let life Flow.... (jiggy jar jar doo) for tips of you who understand that. ... you will bust out laughing.
Youtube it and laugh your butt off....

Word.... Flow! By Carl Poppa..... sorry, wait. ... no I'm not. ... we need comic relief. Stop being so serious.... WORLD!
Hugs
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Aquarius
Posted 4/20/2016 6:46 AM (#27282 - in reply to #27267)
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For all those who are not as an advanced pupil in the great school of life as you are, dear Jill, the following could be helpful:

Psychic Protection

Rays of Wisdom = Relationship Healing - Psychic Protection

Because of our inner connectedness we all react to each other from the subconscious level. That’s why psychic protection is of the greatest importance in all human relationships and especially when it comes to dealing with the people with whom we have difficult Karmic issues to resolve. The people involved are vulnerable and wide open to psychic invasions by negative vibrations they are constantly giving out and receiving from each other.

Besides, the more our spiritual awareness increases, the higher our sensitivity to the detrimental psychic influences that emanate from those around us becomes. Therefore, whenever we have to work our way through hurtful or negative experiences or sense that we are somehow in danger of absorbing someone else’s negativity, we do well to protect our psychic space. If someone around us gives out negative vibrations, intentionally or otherwise, whether they originate from this level of life or any other, we need to protect ourselves.

The best advice I have ever come across was from the White Eagle group of spirit guides. They recommend that in such situations we quickly fold our aura around us, similar to an Angel closing its wings. I find this most effective, in spite of the fact that I am aware that Angels are a great force and a power that only sometimes presents itself to us and our world in a form we can understand and connect with. Those who already are fortunate enough to be able to see Angels, perceive them as highly illumined beings. Great streams of radiant light emanate from their heads and shoulders that makes them look like wings, though in truth they consist of power and light. Moving by the power of thought, they have no need for wings, as we know them from our feathered friends.

Regardless of all that, psychic protection for me works best when I quietly say to myself in my mind: ‘Like an Angel folding its wings and like a flower closing its petals when the Sun goes down, I now close my aura around me. I am safe.’ These words not only provide me with psychic protection, they also call upon the Angels to stand by my side. I find it helpful to accompany this by making some corresponding movements with my hands and taking several deep breaths, breathing in the Great White Light of God and breathing out love. When we do this, no harmful influences can touch us because all we are is enclosed in the shield of light thus created.

To my mind, everybody by rights should always have the benefit of this kind of protection. I suggest practising it especially first thing in the morning and last thing at night, as well as any time in between, as and when you feel the need for it.

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Supernatural3
Posted 4/20/2016 9:48 PM (#27290 - in reply to #27234)
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No need to be advanced. ... even beginners can know one must be weak to need protection, so create yourself untouchable and nothing can touch you.

Basically if anyone thinks they need it. .... they create that very need. Protection is not needed if you know you don't need it.

No different than voodoo only works if you believe it. Turning around and saying beginners need protection is teaching them they need protected instead of training them not to. Blessings
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Disa
Posted 4/21/2016 4:47 AM (#27294 - in reply to #27234)
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I agree, Jill. Since the age of 7 I have had experiences and never a negative one regarding anything metaphysical. Never considered protection until well into adulthood when people started suggesting it was needed. People get carried away with their own fears about what might be. I'm curious about what those "negative entities" might be that people think they are experiencing, but there is no place for them here with me. I'm also curious about why the metaphysical teachers who teach others to fear are doing it.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 4/21/2016 6:03 AM (#27298 - in reply to #27294)
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Maybe it is the inner/outer reality stuff ... ie, everything 'out there' is really a reflection of what is within each of us ... negative or positive ...
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Supernatural3
Posted 4/22/2016 1:29 PM (#27313 - in reply to #27234)
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Yes, i get it. .. there is that negative / positive energy. .. bus that doesn't mean monsters and demons. Lol.... we created that from religion... and most likely seeing spacecraft while still caveman scared the crap out of us. ... lol. We are spiritual beings in a human experience. Focus on beauty, fear nothing because we cannot fail. Make mistakes. ... sing, goof off. .... live! Enjoy feeling pain. ... it means you are in a body and is so temporary it really serves a purpose too. At least i tell myself that. ... lots of love and hugs
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Posted 4/23/2016 6:18 AM (#27319 - in reply to #27313)
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Dear Jill

That's a good way of framing it



Hugs back to you

Happy day

PJ
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Aquarius
Posted 4/23/2016 9:46 AM (#27321 - in reply to #27313)
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Supernatural3 - 4/22/2016 7:29 PM. . .  fear nothing because we cannot fail. Make mistakes. ... sing, goof off. .... live! . . .

To whom it may concern: 

Leo represents the fire of the heart as well as that of the hearth for the whole of Creation. For as long as this kind of fire is left unguarded in young and inexperienced souls, it can turn into a highly destructive force that is capable of burning whatever comes its way with the heat of the passion of the Sun. Because of this, wise ones guard their inner fire and keep it under their control, so that it may give a warming glow to everything they come in contact. The Sun’s warmth and love is a physical manifestation of the Divine sexual/creative/spiritual energy of the purest kind that brings all life into being. Every human heart contains a spark of this Great Light and when the Sun moves through its own sign, this love flows more abundantly than at any other time directly into all life on our planet. Having been born at the time when this wondrous creative energy is at its greatest strength, for the whole of their present lifetime Leos have the benefit of more than their fair share of it. The human link with the highest Sun is stronger and more direct in Leo than in any other sign.

Just like their ruling element that all too easily gets out of control when it is left unguarded, souls born into each one of the Fire signs have a tendency of rushing headfirst and without due forethought into things. Leos are no exception to this. They seem to be courageous, just like their animal counterpart, but often this amounts to nothing more than foolhardiness, which should not be mistaken for real courage. Truly having guts means knowing that there is danger, but in spite of being afraid of what might happen, one is willing to take a calculated risk and still goes ahead and does whatever is necessary. Like in the other Fire signs, souls born into Leo stand to benefit greatly from developing at least a measure of self-control and self-discipline. This alone can help them to avoid constantly creating unnecessary difficulties for themselves.

From ‘The Sun In Leo’

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Posted 4/23/2016 10:06 AM (#27322 - in reply to #27321)
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Aquarius - 4/23/2016 9:46 AM From <a href="http://www.raysofwisdom.com/index.cfm?articleID=590">‘The Sun In Leo’</a> <br /><br /><font size="3" face="times new roman,times">* * *</font><br /><font size="3" face="times new roman,times"> </font><p> </p>
I'm always confused by your postings FROM "somewhere" and rarely read them. Can you not just respond to posts with words of your own which are relative to the commentary and dialogue on the thread? Perhaps you can make your own thread for your "teachings". I don't mean to be rude, but I personally find some posts often preachy and condescending. I would not want people who are considering becoming students here to think this is the way the school does things. Some postings don't reflect the teachings of the school, but are presented as though 'you' are a representative of the school. Very confusing.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 4/23/2016 10:12 AM (#27323 - in reply to #27322)
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Hi Disa

Have experienced the same myself, which is what I have tried to point out from time to time ...

I think if you click on the link that is provided, it takes you to Aquarius' Rays of Wisdom (not-for-profit) web-site ... which as a not-for-profit site does not contravene UMS Board rules ... though nevertheless the impression that is conveyed is a particular one ...

Best wishes

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Supernatural3
Posted 4/23/2016 10:30 AM (#27326 - in reply to #27234)
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Yeah. ... that message was for me. ... hehe. I am a very true Leo... i often do jump in full swing, but what some don't realize is. ... i do wait to jump in. I wait to see that others are indeed feed up and i have zero fear, but lots and lots of love. .... so i really do need to temper check, but. ... check! It's all good!

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Posted 4/23/2016 2:32 PM (#27328 - in reply to #27234)
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Hi to our growing numbers (finally)......
Whoa......lets pause and reflect for a moment.

In one particular thread I asked if the poster was responding to another post. The reason was that the posters post was bizarre in the context of what a previous poster had asked. The response to my post was confusedly clear. The poster in question did not post the post as a response to the post that I asked about. There was a further comment concerning posting to other threads as well, in a serendipitous manner. So, there you have it......it appears we are all very aware of what we post but our motivations might be as different as each snowflake falling from the sky.

Next issue...................in the Easter thread, the observation that a poster's post "raised creeping concerns" and was "troubling" has been discussed quite a few times. I am very liberal and don't pay attention to such posts other than to note things and ask questions. I am comfortable with that, except many times these posts go unchallenged unless I or one other person replies. This, coupled with the official tone of the posts may lead people to believe that this is representative of UMS, when it is not. The key element here is that someone, anyone, needs to constantly reply to dispel the officiousness of the post and to encourage other views and observations-which oftentimes does not happen.

The other issue....."I have been getting hit with people who are not wanting to be here because the only discussions are constantly Jesus related." (from Jillster's opening post in the thread.) Well, what is preventing these people from tapping the good old keyboard and making their voices typed?? I recall asking in several posts for others to punch the old keys and chime in.

Jill, I was surprised by this thread-I thought I knew what you meant but was and am feeling not sure. I, like you, have no real use for and see no real value in an organized religion, whether the Pope is organizing it or ISIL is organizing it. My confusion is that you seem to dismiss "religion" as not being metaphysical. I wrestled with this for a few years and came up with this---I understand "religion" as most people take it to mean RC's, Baptists, Jews, Monrovians, Church of England (which btw, is a "state" church-something Americans would never tolerate) etc. AND all the buildings, rebbes, deacons, bishops and other such nonsense that goes along with these hierarchies. I understand the "religious experience" as being metaphysical, as advocated by William James and others of that school of philosophy. The religious experience is not of this world and we cannot know it's source as it is transcendent.
Along those lines, to dismiss Christianity or to be "way past" seems to be a metaphysical blindspot. For, no matter how much anyone, including one of our more prominent posters, claims it to be myth, there was a person whom we can identify as one whom we know as some variation of "Jesus Christ". Now, was he the son of some god? I got no clue and tend to think not. Did he die and resurrect? I tend to believe so. But, his existence is history, which we can't change; but only learn from.
I think the Murderators need to investigate why this comes up with such frequency and, if inclined to do so, must look at a more than a few different threads since the posting of the cause of all of this is oftentimes not in one exact location. But, the posting of a certain particular comment more than a few times is offensive to some, and spiritually hurtful to me. Mind you, I am not offended, and would not ban it, but on the same token, I would wonder what the underlying motivation is for posting such a thing after there were such negative feelings aroused.





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Posted 4/23/2016 2:51 PM (#27329 - in reply to #27328)
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Dear Marty

Evening... are you channelling the Bard tonight on the 400th anniversary of his death which I note nobody has yet mentioned here .. ? It seemest so, dear friend, since thy words to the mark are so pierced as to be perspicacious and most pertinent ...

Exit pursued by a bear ....

PJ

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