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Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida | Perhaps some may have missed this question that I posted in another thread. Let me hear what you think................
The question is, Is consciousness an epiphenomenal happenstance of this particular universe? Or does the very concept of a universe depend upon its presence? Does consciousness merely perceive reality, or does reality depend upon it? Did consciousness simply emerge as an effect of evolution? Or was it, in some sense, always "out there" in the world?
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Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida | Really......48 views and not one person is willing to comment on consciousness. What happened to the old day's of the UMS board where folks stated their thoughts. I know it's the "Hard Problem" of consciousness (Dvid Chalmers thought) but someone must have a thought or an opinion. |
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| But there have been replies when posted on the other thread friend Leo, no?
In any event, things happen in their own time, in their own way ... such is life ... some things cannot be forced
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| I think consciousness was always "out there" some where, but I don't have anything to back that up with, and so I didn't comment. I figured those who had more to say about it would engage in the conversation and have something far more intelligent to say than I do. The questions don't seem to be any that anyone can prove or disprove, but it seems that the question would lead to either/or answers and my head hurts to much to really think about it.
I figure people who have an interest in a topic will engage, and sometimes, when people don't feel they have anything to contribute- they leave it for those who do...just sayin.
As far as the "old days" I guess that was before my time. This has never been a wildly active forum since I've been here- but it isn't dead yet  As I have been a forum moderator on other sites before, there is an ebb and flow- and forums are only as active as those who put forth the effort, and have the time. |
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Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida | Thanks Disa for your thought. As far as engaging is concernd, I see a great many "views" but only a select few actually do engage. I had hoped to stimulate some who just look to perhaps participate. At one time this forum was "wildly active" as a few of us can attest to. I belive Paul said it best when he commented on my original current post when he said thanks for a stimulating post or words to that effect.
"Consciousness is a fascinating but elusive phenomenon: It is impossible to specify what it is, or what it does, or why it evolved. Nothing worth reading has been written about it." (Sutherland 1989)
As George Miller wrote ('Psychology: the Science of Mental Life'', 1962) “Consciousness is a word worn smooth by a million tongues." Over 50 years later, little has changed. The term means many different things to many different people, and no universally agreed "core meaning" exists.
That being said, many philosophers and scientists are seeking consciousness as some part of the brain. However, within the metaphysical arena phenomonal consciousnes won't be found anywhere in the body.
While physics ponders how to accommodate for the ‘mysterious’ effects of consciousness in experiments, spiritual metaphysics sees beyond the mystery. Because all things are made of consciousness, then all things are actually conscious. All things are aware in their own way.
When you see the universe from this spiritual perspective, it is no longer a mystery. Why does a pair of related atomic particles consciously communicate with each other even at a distance? (Einstein’s “spooky communication at a distance”) Two atomic particles can communicate with each other because they have their own consciousness. They may not have the self-awareness of a human, but, when they meet, they remember each other (Entangled) and stay in communication. If one collides with an obstacle, then the other one feels it and responds accordingly.
Edited by leo 2/22/2014 3:58 PM
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