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| Hey There, Has anyone experienced a near death experience and wants to share the Information.... My first few happened so early that I do not know of the change that people describe afterward.... Being born on 31October probably does not help me much either as this is supposed to be the day where the veil between the worlds is the thinnest, as I have been in several psychic classes and there were often 2 people born on the 31st.... And the majority of the males taking the class were Scorpios... We are talking 3 out of 4 males sometimes.... So I guess to draw this question tighter or another focus is natural tendencies for people to be more psychic or tuned to a higher connection by events Love and Light |
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Location: NE Ohio | I actually should be dead.... i don't know how or why i didn't die and nobody can explain it other than divine intervention. Car crash at 117 mph, missed a curve, hit a ditch, but threw the car in a 360 degree flip and slammed into trees. I had no seat belt on.... felt nothing and walked away. I also remember nothing but floating in clouds, alone. (I did end up with some broken bones and ribs) but, never needed even a hospital stay. The driver is now permanently disabled and spent three months in hospital with multiple surgeries. The car was totaled, obviously... and my cell phone was perfectly placed with-in my hands grasp, like it never moved at all, or an angel placed it back for me to dial 911. So, I wasn't ready to go and wanted to stay to experience more of human life.
Then i almost died again, about 10 months ago. That was the most painful experience yet, and I at that point had begged for death, over the pain.... there was nothing spiritual about it, bleeding internally and not knowing it, being in an ambulance that was a very bumpy ride, when the mere thought of a breath in, was excruciating pain, death was inviting me and I was wanting that ticket over the pain. I then lost everything spiritual for some time... anger took over. I was full of regret, rage, anger... insurance didn't cover it either. Talk about debt. I got billed a bill that would have built a house.
I am not angry anymore, thankfully. I don't know how, but the hospital messed up the codes and the bill vanished into thin air, like it never existed. (I secretly think the doc, who made a booboo in surgery, covered the bill to avoid a law suit) but.... I healed completely... and back to better health, than prior. So, what is meant to be, is meant to be. So be it. LOL
Got my spiritual side back too.... wow, it's so easy to lose the self.... getting the self back is harder than losing it. Whew.
Be Well~
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| Dear Jill, I am glad you are feeling well, and back with us, you gave us a scare Love and Light |
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| Hey There, I was not counting the times that I should have been dead.... The explosions at chemical plants the day after I quit or being shocked by high voltage, and just missing being at tragic events.... I was sort of just talking about the time I spent on death's doorstep and it did not take me during the event.... As there seems to be something different there as they (we) seem to view life differently.... Maybe there remains nothing to prove from a personal point of view... It seems there are a hundred layers between alive and death and sleep might take us down 5 layers and surgery anesthesia can take us down 10 layers.... But people who were revived from death or in a comma seem to have been further from being awake in the normal human condition.... Hey maybe it is just we release fear or we have more connection to our higher awareness after we spend time on death's door Love and Light |
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I'd have to say that if you were a cat, you've used up all your lives. It is interesting that after all of the NDE's I've read about, the one most significent thing is a feeling of deep inner peace. I suppose it could be related to that "Peace that surpasses all understanding". I have learned much about our lives between lives. That peace that is described is I think that which is experienced in the near death experience.
I would think that in that state of spiritual awareness all the worlds problems and drama are released. With my recent move and retirement, I can almost feel that sense of peace and contentment. Almost!!
"In the final analysis
the hope of every person is simply
peace of mind."
The Dalai Lama
Peace, Love and Light
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| Thanks and Many Meows Leo, Hey folks don't try this NDE thing at home please. Well sometimes with the societal pressure we loose touch with our other side and just forget that this is life and it is a game to find out who can have the funniest stories in the hereafter,,,, As when the sun burns out that is all that will be left from this planet. Love and Light |
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| Leo, One thing that I get that leads me to the thought of a concentrated organized perception of God from everyones point of view is why are there entities present who just seem to be score keepers and fact tally entities.... My point is this does not need to be my belief or yours, many clairvoyant indicate that they know this fact.... So yeah there seems to be a reason or formalized point and life is not a chance encounter.... AKA some form of accountability or reason for records would be another way to express this.... Love and Light |
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It is so true that we get so involved in our daily routines and other mindless activities that we forget who we really are. I really don't have any thoughts about any entities keeping records. I thought that there was or is the Akashic records that recorded all of our folish human behavior. Then to add insult to injury, when you pass into the realms you have the opportunity to have it all played back for you. I've heard its much like a movie (I wonder if there's popcorn).
Perhaps in your trips about the realms you may have run into them (the score keepers).
No, I don't believe that life is a chance encounter. I believe that there is little if any free will and a great deal more is determined for us. Our guides are with us to try and keep us in line but..... we probably don't want to go down that bumpy road as that is a major issue in philosophy. It gets really interesting if one believes that this is all an illusion anyway, since we're not real, why do we need free will?
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Location: NE Ohio | I am a firm believer in free will myself. I think we choose everything because we WANT to. I do not believe we are forced into anything. I mean come on, if we didn't have free will, we could not end our life at any given moment, and we can and many do.
That goes back to karma, which i do not feel forces us to pay either.... i think of karma is on a human level only, like shoot someone, go to jail.... be mean to someone, feel guilty inside. We are our own worst critics and judges. I do not feel that any God judges us.... We do. But this has nothing to do with near death experiences. The only feeling I had while pulled out of my body, was a floating sensation of peace. It was beautiful.... then back to reality. OUCH!
I do believe that we may watch our lives in the healing stage upon death, to see not just the silly mistakes, but to remember the love too. It's a healing process... being human is so harsh, if you let it be.
My own take anyway.... the illusion part is that we think we don't have any control, when we do.
Many blessings my friends~
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| Leo, I still go back to the truth and lie scenario of life.... If people do not have an agenda and use truth as a guide, and tell them absolutes, they are allowed to test the given truth to stand the test of integrity..... Science does this as it tests and tries given anomalies / facts and just keeps throwing another variable into the equation to see where they can alter the behavior of what they are discovering.... But this whole process is made from a declaration of an observation.... Opinion needs to chunked out or set aside as how I, or any feel does not change a thing and people may need to explain how they feel in order to be able to clearly see an anomalie..... So with that said I can load any thought minus the emotions and go out to see if this is true or false,,, we are talking about a thought and does what I observe match my theory.... Is the world flat.... Lets go see for ourself... With and without emotions.... The outcome will be different depending on our level of personal fear.... So this experiment of life might be for us to just learn not to fear the unknown and to slowly overcome fears. Should we discredit every book along the way that was designed to create hope for the advancement of mankind.... Even Einstein and Newton had some theories that were superceeded.... But hey this is not to say they were wrong or got it wrong, but if the absolutes were told from the beginning, we would all look in the back of the book and copy the answer, and do some gymnastics to explain how we got from the problem to the answer.... And display a miracle occurring on the test form as we display the question and how we got to the answer... and sort of use BS filler for proof.... So if there is any doubt that hell exists in our mind, we stand a chance of manifesting it.... If a million people said it did not exist, and some did... But hell / Hades seems to be a place where a heart that is pure can not be held.... So it is not head knowledge that we have to accept, it is we have to feel right about our heart. Other people usually can not clear tormented souls from the astral plane, it takes serious energy to do this from another entity.... And the messiah effect is supposed to help those who do not find God on their own.... Noah and a few others seemed to find God regardless of what others said and did... If you read the story everyone laughed at him and none listened to him as he appeared to be a mad man, by what they new, as it never rained before then.... So were the people Friendly enough or Neighborly enough to spend time with him and listen or lend any time to help him and take time to just try to feel what he was doing. We can go through countless renditions of proof and who said what and if the story is true and where is Noah's Arc and I will believe the story when there is carbon dated wood proof and animal footprints leading away, how human! We all believe what we want to or allow to be true to our perception.... So many of us have been badgered by arguments.... Well what about the simple fact of a neighbor seemed to be having a mid life crisis at 450 years old and go spend a day from their thousand year life to see if they can figure out what they are feeling without a preconceived notion of the outcome.... Just being a friend to Noah would have probably allowed the door to remain open for the maiden voyage.... If the story is true or false, it is in the most published book of this era. Is there anything that we can learn from this publication is, we can burn down our own emotions and eliminate what we are trying to prove and just become friendly enough to care for what seems like a person needing a friend People seem to know what they believe, and use things they see to justify their answers for their predawn conclusions But the ones who keep track do not explain what they are doing as when they explain things sometimes too much info is released. But why the tally and record events being played back as people report when they die and about 1 in 9 claims they feel tormented when resuscitated and they return.... So this is more than just manifestation, as proclaimed Agnostics have claimed they met Archangels and a dark one and were given a choice after death of who to hang out with.... Could it be that people have seen what is done in the name of religion and came to the claim that if God's people are like they are, then he must not exist, or is there something we are just not told.... As we get multiple sets of directions and we are supposed to weed through what seems right to us.... Could they already be right with God and they hear what everyone else says and feel there is no void to fill inside of me.... And the thought of someone else claiming they need to do something else or become eternally dammed and you never get to see me again (LOL) sounds like not such a bad deal.... But again if you go door knocking on every door as the Buddha might ask you to do, to sell your religion, you might be able to learn more than the guy who sent you to spread religion to every person on the earth..... So if you are willing to listen as you are intending to share you might find the atheist janitor at AA rehab has more stroke with God than you do, even though you are a theologian and have more letters and degrees with your name and titles.... At least he looked hard enough at God to take a stand for what they believe. So go out and make some noise and try to sell the free will as your idea and convince a few people about the issues you feel either true or false, then let you guard down long enough to feel who has what to express, yeah bring some food that the locals like where you do this, popcorn might work.... But if you don't learn a thing then it was an unproductive day, as the Buddha might say Love and Light
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| Hey Jill, I agree with you, and free will is just something we have and we are separate and part of a whole at the same time, and we lack the words to do this expression justice, and life is just a way to work out our issues with the separation from the whole and to get visitation rights in a way that everyone agrees to LOL Love and Light |
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Location: NE Ohio | exactly... we cannot comprehend things while separate from the wholeness of being back to ourself and source. We are only a portion of who we are while human, (I think).
How are we expected to understand everything. When we stop trying though... we cease to exist.
So keep on thinking, for it's thought that creates our being.
Think well.... be well. ha ha ha, oh man i wish it was always that easy. LOL
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