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New user Posts: 1 | How did you first come across this spiritual science? I just happened to be using it unintentionally for my entire life. I wrote my first book about it while not even knowing it had a name. Then one day the signs and synchronicities started. That is when I met a Law of Attraction instructor named Mary-Lou. I gave her my manuscript. A week latter she returned it to me and said, "Ron, this is all Metaphysics." Edited by BeingWithRonAsh 9/21/2011 7:52 PM | ||
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| Fayrii |
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Location: Utah | It came to me, more then I it. When I was very young, my grandfather passed away, and his spirit came to me and told me that he'd died. When I woke up, I told my mother, as I was obviously very upset. She convinced me it was a bad dream, and that he was ok. Not long after that, we got a call from a hospital, with news that he had indeed died. I could never deny the presence of life after death, and that of a world that most of us can't see, and only feel. Since that day I have experienced other things, nothing too extravagant, mostly just feelings and sensations, dream sharing etc. I have also witnessed the moving shadow of a deceased women, a relative of a friend. It's these moments in my life that have been the guiding star in who I have become, though it has taken me a great deal of up and down to finally realize what I want to do with my existence, and the discovery of this school really helped me decide this. Though I am not yet a student, I plan to be. | ||
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| Supernatural3 |
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PhD Alumni Posts: 1882     Location: NE Ohio | I was just an odd kid... while my friends wanted to play Barbie's, I wanted to have séances and do "light as a feather, stiff as a board". I knew things others didn't and had a high psychic sense. I hid it well trying to fit in... but Metaphysics called me. I didn't go looking for it. I started learning more about it as an adult to control it or enhance it for good purposes. I consider it my way of life now. | ||
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| mruppert |
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Expert Posts: 2118  Location: The Heart of Space | Hi B-ing w/Ronash: Hmmmmm.......... "and now in my heart I know I can say what I really feel 'cause they said it really loud they said it on the air on the radio whoa oh oh on the radio whoa oh oh on the radio whoa oh oh on the radio" Peace Be With Us All, Marty, Lucky and Poopyhead (she is to pooped to pop....asleep on my keyboard....typing is a chore) P.S. Ron, I don't know much about what you air, but in the ancient days, when radios had tubes, there were programs with "metaphysical" content.....the one that comes to my mind most prominently was hosted by Long John Nebel. For sure, he interviewed a fair amount of weirdos. I mean, the dude from Venus was an obvious fake. That guy didn't know any Venusian at all and barely got by in English. But, the content is not why I remember the show so well. I remember it because Long John had a part time sidekick, authority, expert-textpert kind of person whose name was.............Paris Flammonde! How can you go wrong with someone named Paris Flammonde watching your back??????? | ||
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| DreamScapeArtist |
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Member Posts: 11 | I think it is great that our world is learning more than metaphysics isn't just hocus pocus. When I first started seeing that police forces were using physics to help solve crimes and those types of skills were more and more accepted by mainstream society, it was such vindication. I felt like I could stop hiding then. People used to really freak out about this stuff. Few still do, but I think they are starting to become the minority. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2118 Location: The Heart of Space | Hiya DSA, I understand you to mean psychics?!? The cops wouldn't know physics from Newton chucking a fairly large apple at them, and if Isaac did, they would beat the crap out of him and toss him in the slammer. There is still plenty of hocus-pocus and a lot of abracadabra. But, things are coming around . Though, ya gotta know that many commercialize this evolution in our society and try to capitalize on this with flashy websites. Whadyouseguys think? Paws for Peace, Lucky, Poppy, Marty | ||
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| DreamScapeArtist |
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Member Posts: 11 | Correct... my typing skills are sub-par tonight. police and psychics working together in harmony. At any rate... yes, it is nice that people are coming around. Thank you for the welcome! | ||
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| Supernatural3 |
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PhD Alumni Posts: 1882 Location: NE Ohio | yeah, i too am real happy i don't feel like such an outcast now. While SOME of my family has also started having a metaphysical outlook, we still have the majority being "programmed" by the old ways, which i feel limits them, but that is not my lesson to learn. So be it... I certainly do not let them control my views, so i won't attempt to control their's. Everyone comes around when it's their time to... if not in this lifetime, perhaps in the next. Perhaps in the past, they were already metaphysical.... and now are pure science and physics. We chose this for a reason. I have been hearing an awful lot of talk about Karma lately. Not sure I am a believer or not. I do believe in cause and effect, but not sure I believe in forced Karma. I think we have much more control over it. From what I was told by a friend, and I hope they got the name correctly, Author Dick Sutphan stated that one cannot believe PARTLY in karma. It's either one does, or doesn't. I wonder how he pulled that conclusion? Do we have any real absolutes in metaphysics? 8-) | ||
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| FoxFires |
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Alumni Posts: 862 | Jill, I sort of feel the split line of karma is some people are here to do what is their destiny, and some people NOT ME but some might be exempt from the karma rule.... As we are sometimes sent here against our will to do something we do not want to do in the first place.... So I am pretty sure that karma does not affect each of us in the same way.... I think of some people with disabilities that render them as unable to function in a normal manner or autistic people.... There are people who have phobias and seem to feel the guilt of 100's of lifetimes. So not really knowing I sort of come to the conclusion it is what we feel to be true for us.... As our understanding evolves, this might not be the case any more.... But I do have the strong inkling that the boomerang of karma does not always make it back to the sender XOXO | ||
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| DreamScapeArtist |
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Member Posts: 11 | I sort of view karma similar to the way I view gravity. You don't have to believe in gravity either. | ||
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| Supernatural3 |
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PhD Alumni Posts: 1882 Location: NE Ohio | yeah, i agree.... i don't think it always comes back to the sender either. I wish it did in many cases, but then again by what rules are good and bad. For it takes both good and bad for the world to evolve. Someone has to be the villain and someone plays the hero. While i like being the hero... i know i often play the villain too. Oh.... if we knew the answers, we wouldn't be here discussing it. I love hearing many points of view... it validates my own way of thinking as normal. LOL HUGS | ||
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| FoxFires |
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Alumni Posts: 862 | DreamScapeArtist, I understand your point completely. But then I also realized later that after I viewed life as you do now, that me feeling everyone else will have to pay a karmic debt for what they do that might be wrong in a universal law set.... But then realized that not everyone has the same level of accountability or understanding as everyone else. So How we use a benchmark standard to everyone.... Impossible to do right.... Well where do we then establish the lines and perimeters of this law and how is it dispensed.... So I came to the conclusion that everyone is personally responsible for their own karma debt, and me thinking that others were gong to pay for their injustices they did was almost judgment. So I can only speak from a first person standpoint, and say I am not so sure others have the responsibility I have to karma. Love and Light | ||
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| Savant Akashik |
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Member Posts: 15 Location: Earth | I think that it appears that some people are immune to karma, but actually they are postponing the effect by avoiding spiritual development. Once they choose to advance spiritually, their karma awaits them to be worked with as they advance. Up until that time, there's the illusion that these people are "out of the karmic loop". In other cases, karma may take years to re-appear. In Buddhism there's a concept of "Latent Effect" inwhich the effect from a cause stays latent (or dormant) until their "Relation" to the appropriate environmental conditions activate the "Manifest Effect". Each individual is different and their's no predictability of when this will occur. These concepts are apart of what Buddhism calls "The Ten Factors of Life". I've provided a definition below. Since I have worked in the same place for over 20 years, I've seen my co-workers physical appearance change as well as observing the effects of the causes that they have made. Some people advanced in their careers and some people didn't do so well. This is not to judge what they did was good or bad, but rather a learning experience for me to see the Law of Cause and Effect manifesting in the lives of others. Ten Factors of Life [???] (Jpn ju-nyoze ) Briefly, the ten factors are as follows: (1) Appearance: attributes of things discernible from the outside, such as color, form, shape, and behavior. (2) Nature: the inherent disposition or quality of a thing or being that cannot be discerned from the outside. T'ient'ai characterizes it as unchanging and irreplaceable. The nature of fire, for instance, is unchanging and cannot be replaced by that of water. T'ient'ai (538-597) refers to the "true nature," which he regards as the ultimate truth, or Buddha nature. (3) Entity: the essence of life that permeates and integrates appearance and nature. These first three factors describe the reality of life itself. The next six factors, from the fourth, power, through the ninth, manifest effect, explain the functions and workings of life. (4) Power: life's potential energy. (5) Influence: the action or movement produced when life's inherent power is activated. (6) Internal cause: the cause latent in life that produces an effect of the same quality as itself, i.e., good, evil, or neutral. (7) Relation: the relationship of indirect causes to the internal cause. Indirect causes are various conditions, both internal and external, that help the internal cause produce an effect. (8) Latent effect: the effect produced in life when an internal cause is activated through its relationship with various conditions. (9) Manifest effect: the tangible, perceivable result that emerges in time as an expression of a latent effect and therefore of an internal cause, again through its relationship with various conditions. Miao-lo (711-782) regarded the Buddhist law of causality described by the four factors from internal cause to manifest effect as the distinctive characteristic of the ten factors. It concerns the cause and effect for attaining Buddhahood. (10) Consistency from beginning to end: the unifying factor among the ten factors. It indicates that all of the other nine factors from the beginning (appearance) to the end (manifest effect) are consistently and harmoniously interrelated. All nine factors thus consistently and harmoniously express the same condition of existence at any given moment. Source: http://www.sgilibrary.org/search_dict.php?SearchSelect=dict&p=2&m=3... worlds | ||
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| FoxFires |
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Alumni Posts: 862 | Hey All, In fire arms training we always are taught to assume that a gun is loaded until we have checked for ourself. Police officers before starting their rounds verify their gun is full and that no rounds are missing or have been discharged. Same device same cause and effect with different reasons for the actions. Karma can be defined as + or - by our perception.... And living a life of staying in the boy scouts 2 extra years and giving away our fortune, and working for Greenpeace for 10 years, may not give us the edge when it comes to being ahead in karma, if we do this just for the sake of karma or for people to think we are nice guys.... There is some intent her, and we just may not always be able to tweak or affect karma. Many religious and spiritual leaders indicate that karma affects everyone, I am fairly sure this is true, but is everyone bound by the same laws of karma as each other, this is the question raised or statement to ponder.... As we are not all 5 micron thick widgets with the same design and basic footprint.... Thomas Edison made the decision to hire people on one thing, did they salt their food BEFORE they tasted it.... So yes the guy who built the first light bulb made the decision to hire research people on the fact that did they taste their dinner first.... Yeah they got a free meal in the interview process.... But I can not assume that everyone's future is predictable by the karma that seems to waiting to be dispensed This is just a perception and there is no right and wrong answer or question, just ones we do not ponder very long or take serious Love and Light | ||
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| Savant Akashik |
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Member Posts: 15 Location: Earth | Karma does not define our destiny. It is only an effect from a cause. The Law Of Attraction as defined by the references I gave in another discussion in this forum works along the path of cause and effect. Even though there are effects from our previous causes, this does not mean that our future is "written in stone". In my studies and limited application of the principles that I've learned, we can take control of our future by creating causes in the direction of where we want our lives to go. The name I gave my first topic in this forum "Better Living Through Metaphysics" was intentional to bring out the point that the educated and ethical application of metaphysics, which includes the natural laws of life and the universe, that we can make our lives better by using these laws for our benefit. Of course, because of the concept of "Dependent Originations", all life forms are interconnected and we cannot be truly happy by ourselves. There's an old cliché, "No man is an island". Peace and happiness can only be true and stable if all beings are happy; thus we should include world peace in our personal goals. Whether or not we can agree whether karma applies to everyone everywhere, the change for happiness for one's self and others should start with the individual to change whatever in his/her life is undesirable to what he/she considers desirable. One's current life situation doesn't come out of "thin air", there must be some reason behind what is happening. If there is some natural law that I may not be aware of that circumvents the Law Of Cause and Effect (aka karma), please let me know, for I am still learning and I'm open to other answers. I wish to hear of what other metaphysical concepts govern the current condition of an individual, organization, nation and our planet, if it is not karma. I may have a mistaken viewpoint. | ||
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| FoxFires |
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Alumni Posts: 862 | Savant Akashik, Great observations! But saying everyone I know or have seen or ever heard of means one thing, and saying everyone means something else. Remember we only use 5 percent of our brains and the only way this might change that I see is for us to think differently, and allow our reality to expand beyond telling others what will happen and evolve to what is possible for us all.... Love and Light | ||
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| mruppert |
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Expert Posts: 2118 Location: The Heart of Space | Hey there Foxx, "Remember we only use 5 percent of our brains" your quote..... The myth is 10% and you have reduced it to even less. Would you substantiate that, please? I don't think the gray mush is sitting in our skulls mostly unused, asamatta of fact I think that most MRI's show that all regions of the brain are used. You must have something else in 5% of mind, maybe? Beyond that, I don't think that some of our brains are sitting around waiting for Hannibal the Cannibal to stir fry them with some fava beans, but then again, I could be wrong! Cordially yours, Marty, Luckylee, Poppyhead
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Alumni Posts: 862 | Hi Marty, I may well be wrong on the 5% statement and this is a great distraction from the point I was attempting to share, well done!!!! I am not too sure that most of our brains are like you say for others to feed on or plant ideas in, and limit our way of thinking Love and Light | ||
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Ph.D. Alumni Posts: 694 Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida | Yo Marty my man, "Although it's true that at any given moment all of the brain's regions are not concurrently firing, brain researchers using imaging technology have shown that, like the body's muscles, most are continually active over a 24-hour period. "Evidence would show over a day you use 100 percent of the brain," says John Henley, a neurologist at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn. Even in sleep, areas such as the frontal cortex, which controls things like higher level thinking and self-awareness, or the somatosensory areas, which help people sense their surroundings, are active, Henley explains." http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=people-only-use-10... I've often heard the same thing. Even when I was teaching biology in high school I assumed the myth to be true. So.....I finally looked it up. My cinco centavos Blessings to all Leo However, in contrast to the above we have this to consider: "Joseph Chilton Pearce's book "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg" purports and shows many examples that we can only perceive what we can conceive of. When Magellan's fleet sailed around the tip of South America he stopped at a placed called Tierra del Fuego. Coming ashore he met some local natives who had come out to see the strange visitors. The ship's historian documented that when Magellan came ashore the natives asked him how he had arrived. Magellan pointed out to his fully rigged sailing ships at anchor off the coast. None of the natives could see the ships. Because they had never seen ships before they had no reference point for them in their brains, and could literally not see them with their eyes. Therefore, it is to our advantage to expose our brains to varied stimulus so that the proper neuronal connections are forged. In this way we expand and enrich our ability to experience more of our environment in a meaningful way. " "Those who chose to believe that they are using close to their full potential are welcome to do so. Yet, the evidence thus far is overwhelming that we are only tapping a small portion of what the human brain can do. If each of us were operating with fully functional brains, meaning that we had all the capacities of any genius, we had total psychic functioning and complete control over our autonomic nervous system at will, we could be said to operating at full capacity. It is heartening to realize that there is a great deal of potential that is remaining to realize, rather than to assume the present state of mind is nearly the best it gets. I delight in the notion that there is a great deal of room left for improvement, new experience and the flowering of genius. Accepting this I never expect to see the end of the horizon of mindful potentials." So which is it, are we working with all of the brain cells or haven't yet reached the total capacity??? Edited by leo 9/28/2011 4:13 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 2118 Location: The Heart of Space | Hello Liono: Tough question.....I had read the Magellan experience. May I pose another example.....I was sent to find an SES. I had no clue what an SES is and said so. So, I was sent a picture. With the picture in hand, I spied 25 data centers and never once saw "an" or "the" SES. Someone knew where the SES was, and bing bang bong...it is in a room that is 50 feet away from me, that I go in every working day and check stuff to be sure stuff is working. I never saw this SES. I think I am using all of my brain that is available to use. Yet, I did not see the SES. If there is more brain available, then I am truly frightened. And, that is for reasons that I will not mention here, as it may be misinterpreted. Ohhhhh.....before I forget.....I had a stitch in my side and I grinned for days......I love the name and think I will use it.... PsychoMarty and Cybercat Lucky, Syllabiccat Poppy | ||
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Alumni Posts: 231 Location: California, USA | many have told me that becauseI'm currently disabled that it must be some kind of karmic retribution or something. I just smile and move on. Manyyears ago I received a vision which told me my purpose, and it is not a karmic punishment. It is a worthwhile burden to carry for the teaching of myself and others. When the lesson is taught the trial will be over and I will be better for it. maybe that is karma... | ||
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| mruppert |
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Expert Posts: 2118 Location: The Heart of Space | Hi Soul......long time.....did you have a change?????? The following is solely my opinion........... Contemporary metaphysics has difficulty dealing with disabilities of many kinds. It explains things in an intangible, ethereal way with certain emphases. Bad karma/good karma is one way of explaining things. All though some would like to ignore history, the metaphysicians of yesteryear practiced things that are the rock hard science of today. The new metaphysicians flirt with science but, oftentimes, treat science as an enemy. In modern metaphysics, we have "energetic healing" and the Law of Attraction". Again, it is my humble opinion that "energetic healing" will be the rock solid science of tomorrow, available through every doctor, and that the effectivity rate will be astounding. It is also my prediction that we will see another iteration of the "Power of Positive Thinking" as effective or ineffective as it always was, is, or will be....and we will see this time after time. Again, my opinion is that we should realize that there is an ancilliary law to the "Law of Attraction" and that concerns a classification of people and the money that they may or may not have, and how long they can keep it in their clutchpurse. We, as individuals, neither attract nor repel those circumstances that surround us....they are what they are, and many are creations and contrivances of other factors and other beings. What we do is learn to dance to the music of the spheres, together in the darkness, moving in rhythm, in perfect harmony. Thus, we all come together. Peace and Prosperity, Marty, Lucky, Poppy
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Alumni Posts: 862 | Jesse, I was raised basically by Koreans, and their moral system, and these guys were black belts in Judo... long story... But there is a different approach to views, and the way I feel about you or someone else is my future lesson.... So for me to adventure into a guess about your or any person's explanation for why they are the way they are, is the last place I want to visit especially on a volunteer basis, that would be where I volunteered my feelings on another's condition But karma does not have to be involved, to address and reassert your opinion as I would agree with your point Love and Light | ||
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Expert Posts: 2118 Location: The Heart of Space | Well, Fox, anney-hayeseo It is nice to learn something unique about the people we chat with. I am a great lover of Korean food....eat it a lot and make my own. Were you privy to a good recipe for Kimchee? My favorite thing is Kimchee Jigae. They tell me that it promotes longevity! Fermented Cabbage, PsychoMarty, Luckylee Park, Poppyhead Rhee Edited to try to make my font be normal....mmmmm..... Edited by mruppert 10/28/2011 8:14 PM | ||
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| FoxFires |
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Alumni Posts: 862 | Marty, I like the cabbage fermented and unfermented.... But the trick is cook the cabbage slice it into 10 pieces... I referigerate it and use it till finished, but do not bat an eye over the how long was it at room temperature.... For a nice preperation, use a cup or 2 of white or the balsamic... Dark vinegar.... 2 tablespoon salt and pepper as desire. Add a half / quater Habanero or 2 to 3 Jalapenoes.... After 45 min of boiling add a rough chopped onion... I also add 2 tbs crushed corriander seed.... I also let the water in the pot boil down so it is not too watery and the vinegar too diluted This is the cabbage stock.... Frigerate as you see fit or not fit But it should be soft or semi soft leaves, depending on wether u like it well cooked or to let it ferment more, or just partially raw for roughage To get the kimchee style or similar taste, fry 2 short strips of bacon and add some tomato sauce or paste.... if cabbage real dry use sauce, if wet use paste.... There is just something wonderful about the taste of cabbage and tomato with bacon flavoring.... I also use saurkraut with stuffed cabbage in the voids with the tomato sauce I will give you the egg drop soup directions later on Love and Light | ||
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