Spiritual compatibility
Journi
Posted 2/3/2014 10:49 AM (#24725)
Subject: Spiritual compatibility



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This is a topic that has been on my mind quite a bit and I'm curious about other views. I wonder if a relationship is possible when the two are on very different spiritual levels. I'm not talking about beliefs here, but a spiritual level. If one person lives much more on a surface level, run by ego and everything in the outside world, and the other person has a much deeper understanding (even knowledge) of spirit and lives more from that. I realize that the spiritual person can guide and teach, but then isn't that really kind of doing it more for yourself than them? Almost like you want them to "wake up" and see things the way you do? It is very common that people look for similarities when choosing a mate- similar likes, similar status, similar beliefs, but what about levels of spirituality? Can it work when your main focus in life is spirit and theirs is not? When you feel like you are constantly dealing with their ego because they will not, when you have gone quite a distance in taking care of your own? Just curious about views on this.
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Aquarius
Posted 2/5/2014 6:44 AM (#24732 - in reply to #24725)
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One thing is sure and that is that true love is a strange and wonderful thing that moves in mysterious ways. Why do we have so little faith in God? Haven’t all our true needs always been met?  Our Creator is well aware of the fact that each one of us needs a partner who shares our spiritual requirements, as well as our material ones. That is why this too eventually appears in our life, when the time is right – one way or another.

Who are we to stand in the way and hesitate, hopefully not for too long? We are here to learn to love wisely. Well, is it wise to cling onto something – anything that is past its sell-by date? Spiritual awareness, by the way, does not make such decisions any easier. Knowing that we are responsible and have to live with the karmic consequences of our actions, we make an extra effort at doing the right things, on all levels, trying to do justice to all involved. But with our limited view, how can we ever know what is best for ourselves and another? All we can do is to follow our inner guidance, and then take the plunge.

If our intentions are good and we act with love in our heart and do our best, then God and the Angels can and will do the rest. The Universal laws ensure that when we send our best into our world – and all worlds, for that matter – only the best comes back to us. As mentioned in the chapter ‘Searching For Love’ , all bread cast onto the waters of life does come back, and any love we have ever given will always return to us, though not necessarily through the people we gave it to. This hardly ever happens, but back our love comes, as often as not in the form of help, when we really need it. Suddenly it is there and to our amazement hands are reaching out to us, from unexpected people and places.

Observing this kind of thing in our own lives goes a long way towards restoring our faith and trust in the inherent goodness of life, which we may have lost along the way whilst struggling to find out way through some particularly traumatic events. To my mind, that is yet another reason why such situations arise. Although I still have my share of weak moments, the same as everyone, it is good to learn from first hand experiences that it is safe to trust that our true needs are constantly being met. And if it is faith and trust we need, the Universe helps us to learn that, too.

From White Eagle comes the following wisdom. It appeared on the Message Board of the White Eagle Lodge in March 2006: ‘You will ask if divorce or separation can be wrong.  I answer: not at all; in everyday life you go through certain phases, physical or spiritual, which teach you certain lessons.  When the phase is over it falls away, its usefulness being finished.  So also with marriage; when the required period of wedded life has passed, and when you have learned what was necessary, you have probably fulfilled the purpose of that marriage, not only to yourself and your partner, but to the whole, as a result.  We do not, therefore, hold that divorce is sinful, nor does it hinder further spiritual advancement.’

From ‘Teaching An Old Dog New Tricks’

With love and light,
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leo
Posted 2/5/2014 11:00 AM (#24733 - in reply to #24725)
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Journi,
I would say that everything happens for a reason. Perhaps the leson here is that you need to be a example of what spirituality is about. Better stated as lead by example. I assume that you are the female in this relationship and the ego driven worldly one is the male. Believe me when I tell you that I experienced the very same situation a few years ago. While I learned that my ego wasn't that important, I came around to the spiritual understanding of ego vs. spirit/soul. Hang in there and see....
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Disa
Posted 2/6/2014 4:54 AM (#24735 - in reply to #24725)
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Hi, Journi.

I am also in Georgia

I understand what you are saying and why it might seem like a huge issue. I am here to represent the idea of "you can't change anyone but yourself". And I'm quite sure you already know this. Often if you go on living your life according to your spirituality, the other person somehow naturally absorbs some of it.

When I met my husband I really had no concrete spiritual beliefs and it seems that he may not have either, at least none we recognized, discussed,or could label. Over the years I have gone through quite a few personal spiritual transitions and somehow or another, while he didn't necessarily accompany me on my journey in a way that he was physically attending classes, workshops, or churches with me, similarities in our beliefs and spiritually did gradually unfold.

Each person's spirituality is very much an individual thing, and we may be on different levels at different times. I feel it's constantly growing, changing, expanding and sometimes we find a common ground there. Sometimes not.

I think the questions you have to ask yourself are:
Is the person you are with stopping you in any way from practicing your own spirituality or maintaining your own spiritual level?
Is the person set in their ways or are they able to change and grow within themselves?
Are there things you have in common that you enjoy with or about the other person that far outweigh your respective spiritual levels?

I guess what I'm getting at is, only you can tell for sure if the person has the capacity for change or growth and whether or not you can live with the answer to that. People have a lifetime of opportunities to grow and change, for some it comes naturally, for others it takes a devastating wake up call.

Oh, and you know the old saying- opposites attract

Best of luck to you in your choices.
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Journi
Posted 2/6/2014 11:24 AM (#24738 - in reply to #24725)
Subject: Re: Spiritual compatibility



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Thank you so much for the responses! I have read them a couple of times and pondered a bit. The White Eagle quote for me is dead on with what I feel. I very much have a Buddhist view of non-attachment. I am able to love without attachment. This probably is one major issue in my relationship. My boyfriend sees this as non commitment and that I don't care about our relationship. This is not the case at all, and I cannot get him to understand it. He is incredibly hung up on me making a "promise" that I will be with him forever. Sure, wonderful concept, but sometimes people change, things change. If you work on making sure this very moment is good, you can follow suit until the end of time. If you are only focusing on what will be in the future, and fearing what could happen, you are messing up this moment. I'm sure that when he married many years ago he did not do it with the intent that they would change, grow apart and split. But me saying "I want to spend my life with you, let's try and make that happen" does not sit well with him, he wants a promise.
I will mention that him and I were together 25 years before we had reunited 2 years ago, so not total strangers. But in that time I changed myself immensely. Him, well not so much. He was always very clingy, possessive and jealous. Still is. He is very open to my views and interests (except the non attachment one!), but sometimes almost too much so. In that I mean that it feels like he's just trying to impress. When I told him I didn't eat meat he instantly stopped eating meat. When I told him I like chai lattes he started drinking them obsessively. Everything I do or don't do, think or talk about, he does the same. He got involved in my business and has become obsessed with it. He lays on extreme guilt trips at the mere mention of doing anything without him (even visiting my family) to the point that I will not even try to consider it anymore. Even small things like I made some juice in the juicer when he wasn't around. So, I see all of these things as being very ego driven. I know that I have helped him in many ways, his anger and outbursts have lessened, but is it fair that I deal with these things in hope that one day he will finally "get it"? My intent has been to go into spiritual counseling, but it is not something I care to do in my relationship. When it is personal, and there constantly, it is incredibly draining. I feel that I struggle in furthering myself because I am constantly having to "help" him. I do have to say he asks for help, I'm not trying to force things on him.
I do fully believe that every person, every thing, comes into your life for a reason. You learn from absolutely everything. What you are meant to have in your life at the time will be there. He came to me at a time when I felt that I was uncared for, unloved. And he obviously cares for me immensely and would do anything for me. And I think I needed that to strengthen the confidence in myself. He helped me to realize my worth. But then I wonder "will I be able to go on with these other things that are draining me? Will I be able to help him realize his ego? And am I only wanting to to make my life more peaceful?". Yes, I would like to have a life with him, but not the way it is now. I like to stay in the moment and focus on right now, but when right now is constantly dealing with his ego am I being fair to myself? Or him even? It's becoming harder and harder to let go and relax when the outbursts are done. So yes, he's very willing and open, but the "getting it" part is another story.
Oh- hello, Disa, fellow Georgian! I do understand the "opposites attract", I'm a hippie and he's a biker! Haha! And that's perfectly fine with me. I guess it's the spiritual part that I can't handle an opposite since it's not just an interest, it's my life
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Disa
Posted 2/6/2014 4:40 PM (#24739 - in reply to #24725)
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Hi, Journi.

I didn't think hippies and bikers were opposites? The ones I know have very similar beliefs. I was thinking he must be some sort of investment banker on wallstreet or something- haha.

The things you've mentioned in your most recent post are a far cry from the first(or maybe my perception is just really different than what you are trying to convey). I think it may be his personality type that's conflicting with yours? (The clingyness, the following everything you say and do, the need to be around when you do anything, the guilt trips-those sound as though he has issues related to his own self worth or self identity) With already 25 years or more of knowing each other, you can pretty much assume he will not change (my opinion only) unless of course he gets to the root of why he is clingy, etc... Over 25 years with my husband I have seen him change gradually and we have grown together, not apart (but his core personality was one that resonated with mine)so I was hoping the same for you.

None of us can tell you what you should do, obviously-but hopefully we have provided some food for thought? I think you just have to examine within yourself if his good qualities outweigh the ones that are draining you, and how much you are willing to put up with. I don't think it would be fair to him for you to expect him to change too much at this stage, so you have to weigh the pros and cons, and love him as he is.

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Journi
Posted 2/7/2014 7:22 AM (#24742 - in reply to #24725)
Subject: Re: Spiritual compatibility



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Disa,


Yes, I guess the two are not quite opposites, but certainly different in mentality at times. I'm all about peace, love (for all) and compassion. He is Mr. Tough Guy, feeling that everyone should fear him, and doesn't really trust anyone so he must protect his property (me). As far as beliefs yes, they are very similar in us.

I think in my first post I did not want to get on here and lay my relationship out on the table. I was intentionally vague. This isn't a relationship issue forum, so I didn't want to come across that way! In the second post it came out I guess because I really needed it to. I have struggled with this for quite a while with no one to talk to. My reason for seeing it as a spiritual issue is this- in my teens and 20's I struggled with serious depression. I felt like the world was out to get me. It was my destiny to be miserable. I went to many counselors, took anti depressants, even attempted suicide. Nothing I was doing helped in any way. I loved to read, and decided it was time to put down the fiction and start reading some self help books. When I found some that were spiritual in nature something clicked in me. I started seeing things completely different. My whole views and perspective changed. I never took another pill or saw another counselor. I have come quite a long way since then. It was spirituality, not psychology, that got me there. So yes, I feel that that is what will help him through his issues. And yes, he is very willing, BUT I am seeing the distance I have gone in this and he is just starting. So I feel like we are on very different levels. It took me many years, and I will always be learning and growing. I often feel like I'm slipping backwards because when he has a meltdown he will not accept me not engaging. He will keep laying into me until I break down and go off. It used to be everyone that I knew thought it was odd that I never got mad. And I didn't, I was at peace. Now I get angry pretty quickly. And I can't blame him, I control my emotions. So I feel that now I have to help him AND go back and do work on myself that I had already done!

So yes, I have weighed pros and cons many times, and they are pretty even, but then I think about the mental and physical effect on me (I have a chronic illness that is exacerbated by stress) and wonder are the cons worth dealing with. It's almost like he is completely reliant on me to teach and guide him. He won't pick up a book or attempt to meditate unless I "tell him how". Everything he learns comes from me, and it's wearing me out! I sit in the house every day, barely going anywhere and my life pretty much revolves around him. And I know that he wants it that way. I have moved several states away from all of my family and friends and know no one here. I have become a hermit and my health has declined. This is something that I can, and should, do something about. I have just been afraid of the backlash. I don't want to portray him as a monster, he is not. It's just major guilt trips that end up stressing me pretty badly.

SO, it is much to think about! I hang in there until he "wakes up" or I move on. I know going deep within will help me to eventually find the answer.
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Aquarius
Posted 2/7/2014 7:32 AM (#24743 - in reply to #24742)
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As always, the test lies in the way we tackle and resolve the issues that arise. This in itself reveals to our guides and Masters behind the scenes, who are in charge of us and our spiritual development, much better than anything else how much we really have progressed on the evolutionary spiral of life – or whether we merely think so.
 
Of Marriage
And then Almitra spoke again and said:
‘And what of marriage, Master?’
And he replied:
‘You were born together, and together you shall be for evermore.
You shall be together when the white wings of death scatter your days.
Aye, you shall be together even in the silent memory of God,
For in spirit all is one and together all once came forth from the heart of God.

But let there be spaces in your togetherness
So that the winds of the Heavens can dance between you.
Love one another, but make not a bond of love.
Rather let it be a moving sea between the shores of your souls.

You do not need another to make you whole,
For each has the energy of the other dormant within;
It is merely waiting to be taken into possession by each one.
Let the other help you do this, but then let go of each other again.

As each soul has their own pathway to walk, let each do their own thing.
Share what nurtures you –
Fill each other’s cup but do not drink from the same cup
Or eat from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous,
But let each also sometimes be on their own;
Even as the strings of a lute are alone,
Although they vibrate with the same tune.

Give your hearts, but not into each other’s keeping;
For only the hand of Life can contain your hearts.
And stand together, but not too close,
In the same way as the pillars of a temple stand apart,
And the oak tree and the cypress do not grow in each other’s shade.

Each in their own way and time has to learn their lessons,
Their Karma to redeem and their Highest potential to fulfil.
Let each learn to take the lead in some things and to follow in others;
When each contributes in their own special and unique manner,
You add variety and interest to your relationship,
Helping it to last longer and ensuring that both partners
Grow at an even pace, individually and together.

From ‘The Prophet’ by Kahlil Gibran 1883-1931
Lebanese/American poet
Edited by Aquarius

From ‘A Celebration Of Kahlil Gibran’
 
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Journi
Posted 2/7/2014 9:02 AM (#24746 - in reply to #24725)
Subject: Re: Spiritual compatibility



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Aquarius,

Thank you. Your statement and poem go to the very core of what I am talking about. I know that I have come quite far from where I was, but is it really as far as I feel it is? My recent dealings with issues and what I attract into my life tell me "no". Just gaining knowledge does not make a person spiritual, it's the practice. I live my life fully by my beliefs, but do not "go within" quite enough. And this is where I see that I still have a ways to go.

The poem really hits the nail on the head. You cannot chain and control someone. Sharing your life does not mean you have to be with that person every possible second and do everything that they do. Also when you feel that your life would have no meaning or purpose without that person in it, it is very unhealthy.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 2/7/2014 2:37 PM (#24748 - in reply to #24746)
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Hi Journi

Nice to see you here.

C. G. Jung also wrote about the idea of 'Marriage as a means of individuation'.

I think what he meant by this is something along the lines that, when we fall in love with someone, it is not necessarily the 'other' with whom we are falling in love, but with our own projections of ourselves within the other - and sometimes with the Shadow of ourselves that we imagine we see in the other.

The spiritual idea of 'marriage', is that it is a process whereby we have to withdraw our projections, and take them back into ourselves. In that process, we become more integrated, but we also begin to see the 'other' in a more realisitc light: or we can choose to hold them within our projections, if we do not like our Shadow very much and want to keep it external to ourselves - hence the hatred of our partner that sometimes grows, and the wish to divorce ... we are divorcing ourselves from that aspect of our own nature that we do not like very much

It can get very complicated ... but I think Jung was onto something there ..

Namaste
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Posted 2/7/2014 2:49 PM (#24751 - in reply to #24748)
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Yeah:

It is all about alchemy, crucibles and the combustibility of opposites ... or some such

Watch out for explosions ....

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Journi
Posted 2/7/2014 4:09 PM (#24753 - in reply to #24725)
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Yes, I have often heard that the things you dislike the most in others is what you dislike in yourself. I have had some problem agreeing with that (although I love Jung), but then the things I typically dislike in others aren't always so much traits, but things they "do". Like bad habits. But then also the traits in my boyfriend that I most dislike- clingy ness, jealousy, etc.- are traits that I do not have. I can more understand loving the traits in him that are similar to my own. But I love regardless of traits. I love him for just who he is, it's the traits that are going to determine if I can continue to live my life with him!
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Disa
Posted 2/7/2014 4:43 PM (#24754 - in reply to #24725)
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I get what you are saying, Journi. You have a very difficult choice to make. I wish you all the best in finding the choice that brings you a joyful life, a feeling of freedom, and of course love.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 2/7/2014 5:37 PM (#24755 - in reply to #24754)
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Sorry ... I think my Jung post came across as a bit crass on re-reading, and especially reading the earlier posts that I had missed befoore, my comment mainly being in response to the Gibran quote ... I think it is far more complicated than I made out and yes, see too the difficult choice discerned by Disa ...
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Disa
Posted 2/7/2014 7:00 PM (#24756 - in reply to #24725)
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Paul, I didn't see what you said is being crass. I think Jung may have been on to something, too.
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Journi
Posted 2/7/2014 11:49 PM (#24757 - in reply to #24725)
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I did not find it crass either. And I'm sure it's much more complicated than I have taken it. Jung is someone that I admire, but even in most people I admire there is usually something I don't agree with But it would take more study and pondering on my part. I typically dissect things!

So yes, I have a choice to make. Knowing myself I will probably stick around for years trying until I've worn myself thin. When someone shows a willingness to change I will try my best to help them. So far it has been to my own detriment, but I hold onto hope that one day it might actually work!
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Disa
Posted 2/8/2014 6:57 AM (#24758 - in reply to #24725)
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I'm the same way, Journi. Just remember it's okay to protect your compassionate heart if the time arises. Be well...
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Paul Joseph
Posted 2/11/2014 5:52 AM (#24766 - in reply to #24758)
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A propos the Ophiucus post, I noticed that Compatibility and Combustibility as words seem to differ only in the 'a' and the 'us' in the middle!!
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Aquarius
Posted 2/11/2014 7:10 AM (#24767 - in reply to #24766)
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Of course, I could be miles off the mark, but I can’t help a sneaking feeling that this relationship pf yours is a demonstration of how the characteristics of Sagittarius, the fiery freedom loving gypsy of the zodiac, and Taurus, the earthy, steadfast builder of the zodiac can be struggling to come to terms with each other, as likely as not within yourself as well as in your partnership. The following is an extract from ‘The Sun In Taurus’

'In all dealings with Taureans it is much easier to get along with them when one appreciates and accepts their nature and temperament and approaches them accordingly. Many problems in our relationship with them can be avoided by never forgetting that it is all right to lead the bull to the water, but that it is most unwise to try to push its head into it. Taureans who are honest with themselves are likely to confirm that one does indeed invite trouble that way! Wouldn’t our world be a much easier place to live in, if we were all more aware of the inborn behaviour patterns of each other’s signs? Let no-one make the mistake of thinking that because of their slow reactions Taureans lack intelligence. They simply need enough time to absorb and integrate new ideas and concepts. Unless they are allowed to assimilate things at their own sweet pace, so they can gradually get accustomed to them, they are likely to become somewhat flustered and upset. Because of this indirect action is best when dealing with Taureans.’

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Aquarius
Posted 2/11/2014 12:33 PM (#24771 - in reply to #24767)
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We are magnetic beings and the law of attraction is at work in all life, including each one of us. This law sees to it that all human souls can only draw into their orbit that which they themselves are. Wherever we may find ourselves at any given time, that is always the right place for us to be. We are there to integrate certain lessons and the world around us can be used to help us find out what they may be. The environment is designed to act like a mirror of our unconscious inner self. At all times it is trying to help us become more whole by reflecting our inner world back to us.

That is why we can only see in others what we ourselves are. Alas, rather than living our less pleasant traits out, in a psychological process known as projection we prefer to assign them to others, rather than owning up to them ourselves. The world around us is always a reflection of the good as well as the distasteful behaviour patterns of others, which in truth are also our own. Nobody has any problems when it comes to integrating and owning the good qualities that are on display in this way. But having to deal with the less desirable and endearing ones is another matter entirely. Irrespective of how objectionable any of them are, in the process of becoming more whole it is essential that we own up to them. Even if our psyche tries to hide them from our conscious awareness,  they are there nonetheless. This is proved by the fact that we can recognise them in others whilst failing to see in them in us.

If our energies and characteristics were not so similar to the ones of those who irritate and annoy us – including our nearest and dearest – we would never have drawn a relationship with them into our lives, because we would not have needed it. But, the way things have been thus far in our evolutionary plan of life, we most certainly do. For as long as we suffer intensely from the nastier character traces we observe in others, we are receiving signals from the Universe that the same is tucked away inside us, in our own subconscious, waiting to be released.

Human behaviour is not compulsive and each soul can and indeed must in due course learn to choose how to behave in any given situation. This is where our much cherished freedom of choice comes into the picture, and that is the only true freedom the human soul has, while it is held captive by its physical body. The way someone behaves and the choices they make reveal better than anything else the evolutionary level that person’s soul has reached thus far. This gives a clear picture to our guides and masters on the higher levels of life of how much we have up to now learnt to control and master the lower aspects of our nature. Most of all this reveals itself in all our relationships with our environment, especially our human contacts and within that framework in particular with our nearest and dearest. That is why each one of these connections is of the greatest importance to every soul.

There is nothing to be afraid of here. We have not been given free will for nothing; we must exercise it and choose in any situation how we wish to behave. Nobody has to act upon any bad or downright evil impulses; there is always a choice. It is up to us to resist the pull of our lower nature and rise above its instincts and urges. The characteristics we observe as unpleasant in those around us will only continue to annoy and irritate us for as long as the same ones are lurking in our own subconscious. I can think of no better way than asking God and the Angels to help me lift them into my conscious awareness, so I can accept and acknowledge them. This I follow by a response of a firm: ‘No!’ and ask that they should be released and their energies transmuted into wholesome and good ones. That in a nutshell is evolution. It is a process that demands constant changes from us and our world; that is why nothing ever remains the same.

It is possible to influence others and those on the healer’s pathway ensure to do this in positive ways only. Anyone who to this day believes they can change someone else is chasing an illusion, because that is impossible. In all human relationships projection is always at work. It is a normal part of human behaviour. Everybody does it, so let this not worry you. Next time you find yourself in troublesome relationships and situations, stop feeling bad about them or yourself. Bearing in mind that the only person in the whole wide world that can be changed by us is ourselves, do something constructive and positive and get to work, not on the people who are irritating you, but on yourself.

Whenever we have problems with others and want their behaviour towards us to change, we must first sweep in front of our own door. To find a resolution we have to look within and with utmost honesty examine our own mannerisms and deep seated inner attitudes. They are the culprits and the cause of all our difficulties. First we have to assess our problem, then our search for a solution can begin. This is a journey like any other that starts with the question: ‘Where am I now, where do I want to go and how can I get there?’

From 'The Dynamics Of Human Relationships And The Law Of Attraction’

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Journi
Posted 2/15/2014 9:51 AM (#24787 - in reply to #24725)
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Aquarius,

Actually he is Virgo, and I am Cancer. Funny, although I do definitely have many Cancer traits, I think he has more than me. He is sentimental and moody, and I am not. He tells me that I always look at things logically, not with emotion, which is pretty true. I do have emotion, I just don't let it run my thoughts and actions. I can say though I absorb energies like crazy. Living with someone that is constantly in a mood (usually not a good one) is extremely difficult on me. I have to really fight to not be overtaken by it. Sometimes it doesn't work. This is a very big problem because I am really making an effort to progress myself spiritually and it's almost like I have to keep starting over. It should not be effort, it should just flow. But I feel that I spend so much time and energy trying to "fight" the bad energies surrounding me that I just stay stuck right there in the middle, not being able to progress.

I have in no way tried to change him, just guide and teach because he asks for it. But yes, I also try to help him to also benefit myself. It is very difficult when the majority of your time is taken up with someone else's wants, needs and constant moods. He wants my whole world to be about him, and he makes sure that it is. I just don't get a break from him. He calls all through the day, every single day, while he's working and sometimes we are on the phone for hours. He cannot go for a couple hours without talking to me. Maybe this is common in new relationships, but it has been every day for over two years (and he has been texting me the whole time I have been writing this!). He puts a lot of energy into thoughts, so I never know what I will be hit with hour to hour. His ego begs for me to appease it constantly.

I do feel that my purpose in life is to help people but, like I said, I don't want to have to do that (constantly) in a relationship. He wants me to "fix him", but what I see is deep down he really justs wants me to say what he wants to hear. Yes, there are very good aspects to this relationship, but here I am just trying to deal with the not-so-good. It is completely draining me. I ask myself every single day if it's worth it, and always come up with different answers. Sometimes I feel that if I have to ask myself that question then the answer is pretty obvious, but then I see the potential and feel I should keep trying. I just don't want to break myself in the process.
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Posted 2/19/2014 7:36 AM (#24812 - in reply to #24787)
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Dear Journi,

J: Actually he is Virgo, and I am Cancer. Funny, although I do definitely have many Cancer traits, I think he has more than me. He is sentimental and moody, and I am not. He tells me that I always look at things logically, not with emotion, which is pretty true.

A: I don't know how aware you are of the fact that there is a great deal more to human beings and their birthchart than just the Sun sign. It is equally important to find out their Moon sign and the position of both Sun and Moon, as well as their Ascendant, which cannot be found unless a time of birth is known. And that’s merely scratching the surface. All of us are complex creatures and many-faceted jewels in an earthly setting and that isn’t at all easy for anyone. If people were honest enough to admit it to themselves.

J: I do have emotion, I just don't let it run my thoughts and actions. I can say though I absorb energies like crazy.

A: That is very much a Cancerian trait, so this sign clearly is strongly in your own character makeup too. It couldn’t be any other way or you wouldn’t have attracted a Sun Cancer man into your orbit. We are magnetic beings and like does attract like. Oh yes, Virgo is ruled by Mercury, the winged messenger of the Gods of antiquity. It is a thinking sign and represents the intelligence and the wisdom of the Earth. Cancer is all emotions. For as long as they haven’t learnt to control their feelings, they can be extremely moody and fluctuating in their responses in keeping with the constant coming and going of the Moon. They love to wallow in self-pity too. I believe you cannot really get to know a Cancerian unless you know their Moon sign and its house position.

J: Living with someone that is constantly in a mood (usually not a good one) is extremely difficult on me. I have to really fight to not be overtaken by it. Sometimes it doesn't work. This is a very big problem because I am really making an effort to progress myself spiritually and it's almost like I have to keep starting over. It should not be effort, it should just flow. But I feel that I spend so much time and energy trying to "fight" the bad energies surrounding me that I just stay stuck right there in the middle, not being able to progress.

A: I can tell you from first hand experience that it is unwise to put up with such a situation – in the long run it can only harm you. If you insist staying with him, it is more than likely that you will gradually be pulled into a vortex of depression. To my mind that is a price too high to be paid for any relationship.

J: I have in no way tried to change him, just guide and teach because he asks for it. But yes, I also try to help him to also benefit myself. It is very difficult when the majority of your time is taken up with someone else's wants, needs and constant moods. He wants my whole world to be about him, and he makes sure that it is. I just don't get a break from him. He calls all through the day, every single day, while he's working and sometimes we are on the phone for hours. He cannot go for a couple hours without talking to me. Maybe this is common in new relationships, but it has been every day for over two years (and he has been texting me the whole time I have been writing this!). He puts a lot of energy into thoughts, so I never know what I will be hit with hour to hour. His ego begs for me to appease it constantly.

A: That sounds like a living nightmare to me. I don't know how you’ve been able to put up with it for two years. However, there may be light at the end of the tunnel in so far as you may soon find the inner strength to act and cut yourself free from him. Our lives move in two and a half year cycles. So, if this relationship started two years ago, it stands to reason that help will come naturally to both of you in the form of a change of energies which the Universe puts at your disposal. This usually means new lessons to be learnt and new people to be met.

J: I do feel that my purpose in life is to help people but, like I said, I don't want to have to do that (constantly) in a relationship. He wants me to "fix him", but what I see is deep down he really justs wants me to say what he wants to hear. Yes, there are very good aspects to this relationship, but here I am just trying to deal with the not-so-good. It is completely draining me. I ask myself every single day if it's worth it, and always come up with different answers. Sometimes I feel that if I have to ask myself that question then the answer is pretty obvious, but then I see the potential and feel I should keep trying. I just don't want to break myself in the process.

A: Oh, where have I heard that before and that only recently? A good friend of mine, Sun Virgo, had what she thought initially to be a wonderful relationship. It did not take long until she realised that it was actually a destructive one, very similar to what you are describing here. So, she cut her losses and they parted company – not without quite a few tears, on her side certainly. But, good sense prevailed, as I believe it will do in your case, too. It’s not for nothing that you are a Sun Virgo, the teaching and healing sign of the Universe. You have work to do.

Please note that I am not in business and I don't do birthchart interpretations, but it you let me have your birth details and those of your partner, if possible, I may be able to give you a few pointers. If you don’t want these details to appear here on the forum, the easiest way to get in touch with me is through the Contact Page of my website.

With love and light,
Aquarius
 

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Posted 2/19/2014 10:11 AM (#24815 - in reply to #24725)
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Aquarius,

I appreciate so much your taking time to write and offering your wisdom. It helps me immensely. I do have to say though, I can see from your responses that you had misread what I said. I can see that you are placing me as the Virgo and him as the Cancer. It is the other way around. He is Virgo, and I am Cancer. But I was stating that with his emotions he seems to have Cancer traits that I don't really have. I definitely was much more emotional when I was younger, but have very much changed in that regard. I do have emotion, but am not controlled by it. He acts on every thought and emotion as if it is truth. Over the years I have been told at times that I am "cold". I believe it's because I don't react out of emotion, more out of an attempt at rationality. Also, although I do have compassion, I am not incredibly sympathetic, if that makes any sense!

Anyway yes, I definitely know there is much more than a sun sign. I have attempted at times to look further into astrology than the sun sign, but then I get lost and confused. Astrology has not been my strong suit! I would definitely love to have more details, though the only information I have is a birthdate.
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Posted 2/19/2014 2:43 PM (#24816 - in reply to #24815)
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Dear Journi,

Please accept my most sincere apologies for misunderstanding the situation. As far as your birth details are concerned, if you do not know the time of birth of either one of you, please let me at least have the name of the places where you drew the first breaths of your present lifetime.

With love – Aquarius

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Posted 2/19/2014 2:46 PM (#24817 - in reply to #24815)
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As Moderator might I carefully interpolate here, with due respect to all concerned ... and confidentiality ... I think it might be best if individual birthdates are not disclosed on the very public site - especially the birthdates of others who are not or might not be involved with the site.

I have just now logged on and had to delete yet more spam, which, thanks to the new 'system', has not appeared in public, but have no misunderstanding, many are reading these words who do not post - and some go on to post garbage.

So if Journi and Aquarius will forgive, I will delete Journi's last post, or if I can just, the birthdate details ... no offence...

Namaste
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ok left in main part of post, only deleted the birthdates - yours and his .... ok?

ps, Aquarius posted as I was posting ... if you have places of birth, please please do not post here ... though PM if you wish ...
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Posted 2/20/2014 8:02 AM (#24825 - in reply to #24725)
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Yes, thank you, dear Ophiucus. I have the dates, but in themselves they are of not much use to me in any case. And yes, of course, they are safe with me and will never be revealed to anyone else. With love - Aquarius
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Posted 2/21/2014 5:27 AM (#24826 - in reply to #24825)
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Of course I realize that of you Aquarius, thank you: but certain named brand shoe afficianados are still posting spam out there, my having had to delete two such random posts just now ... and I fear not everyone is as scrupulous as you !
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Posted 2/21/2014 9:21 AM (#24829 - in reply to #24725)
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Ophiucus,
I am very sorry, and do certainly understand. I appreciate you removing them. I did not even realize that it was possible to send a PM from here. I do see how to do it now, so from now on can communicate anything more personal that way.
Thank you

Aquarius,
Not a problem at all. I so much appreciate your taking time to write. I will be sending a PM with the places of birth.
Thanks so much!
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Posted 2/21/2014 2:14 PM (#24830 - in reply to #24829)
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Dear Journi - I look forward to receiving them. It's a great pity you can't supply the times of birth as well. But never mind, I have come to some pretty poignant conclusions by now - even without time and places of birth. More soon.

With love - Aquarius

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Posted 2/22/2014 6:33 AM (#24840 - in reply to #24830)
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Dear Journi,

For starters and before we go any further into anything, it may surprise you to find out that you are not a Sun Cancerian but a Sun Leo. You were born on the cusp between Cancer and Leo in 1 degree 34 minutes Leo. How’s that for a discovery for starters?

Your Moon is in Scorpio. Here is my interpretation of what this means:

Moon In Scorpio

Your Moon is in Scorpio, one of the signs that is co-ruled by two planets. One of them is Mars, the planet of desire and the God of war of the ancients. The other one is Pluto, the God of the underworld, who can and does frequently take us into the very depths of human experiences. In this sign the Moon is in its fall and that is an indication that those born into this Moon position find it difficult to let go of the past. They need to take care not to allow themselves to be too dominating and aggressive, impatient, moody and given to brooding over the past. Intensely passionate in their response to life, they are emotionally highly touchy and sensitive.

Because of this, they get hurt easily and may become overly resentful. They are impulsive and tend to be jealous and desire is their motivating force. Proud and strong willed people, they are so secretive about their feelings that they can have great difficulties to express them openly. They may even hide their innermost secrets from themselves, never mind those around them. Becoming aware of such negative and self-destructive behaviour patterns is the first and most vital step towards unlocking and changing them into life-affirming and helpful ones.

Scorpio is a fixed Water sign and both Sun and Moon Scorpios can be extremely stubborn and as time goes by and nothing is done about this, they may become much too set for their own good in their ways. Because they have a tendency to demand too much from themselves and others, they often encounter disappointments in matters of the heart. To overcome this, learning to put themselves into the other person’s shoes to gain a better perspective of their own and the other one’s worth and motives is helpful. They tend to sit in judgement over others too quickly. Scorpios never forget anything, especially not emotional wounds. Even if they are unable to forget, their greatest need is to learn to forgive, others as well as themselves.  They have a lot of physical and emotional strength and also extremely sensuous soul, although in all probability they hide this carefully – maybe even before themselves. They can be excellent detectives, because they have the wonderful ability to smell a rat and when something is fishy somewhere from a mile away.

Their temperament is an extreme one and their feelings run deep. Anger and aggression can be a real problem and difficult to handle. Mars being the planet of desire, when obstacles present themselves, anger and aggression well up in us from within. There is nothing wrong with that and anger in itself is by no means the negative emotion it is often made out to be. It does have its place, the same as everything else in the whole of Creation. When used constructively, i.e. in the right manner, place and in connection with the right people, it is meant to help us clear away obstacles that come into the way of our progress in life. However, when left unattended to and ignored, pushed down and out of sight of our conscious self, it will fester away and cause the smouldering resentment that is so typical for both Sun and Moon Scorpios. In the fullness of time, this will manifest itself in our physical body as painful conditions and illness.

To stop them from hurting themselves and others constantly, more than anything else both need to learn the safe handling of their feelings. They tend to be pessimists and can with time become quite cynical about life; that is why the wise ones among them work on finding a more optimistic approach to life. As pointed out earlier, Scorpio’s desire nature is strong and they like to go after what they want. Yet, as often as not this brings disappointments. Having got the object of their desire, all too many times they discover that it is not really what they had wanted and expected in the first place.

Overcoming and letting go of the difficulties of the past, not only of this lifetime but all others, is exceedingly difficult for them. Yet, having to fight for something does not mean that they have to give up. Quite the opposite is true! Moon in Scorpio are fighters. Theirs is the willpower and stamina always to want to go on, but they seem to have to work that much harder at everything than anyone else. They inner battles they have to fight with themselves, between the pull of the earthly self and that of the Highest Self, aid their spiritual and emotional growth. Scorpio is the sign of transformation; it can bring out either the best or the worst in the human soul. We always have a choice in everything, but choice there has to be and that is especially true for Moon in Scorpio.

They are great lovers of truth. Unfortunately, this all too often finds itself an outlet in a lack of tact. Those who wish to succeed in life do well when they learn to guard their tongues as early on as possible. Wise ones take care of this because they are aware of how excruciatingly scathing their words can be when they allow their tongues to run away with them. They also pay attention to not over-estimating the value of their self against that of others and avoid acting in ruthless and over-ambitious ways. Like everything connected with Scorpio, its upside is as strong as its downside. Both Sun and Moon Scorpios are tenacious and tough. The Universe has provided them with a good fighting spirit and the capability of vigorously bouncing back from just about any setback in life.

Their present lifetime may sometimes present them with periods when all that is left to them seems to be a mere struggle for survival. There is no reason for despair though, because such times are provided by the great wisdom of the Universe to help them bring forth and develop the resilience and strength to survive just about anything, to bounce back from death’s door, if need be, and complete restore and regenerate themselves and their lives. That is Scorpio’s birthright!

Recommended Reading:
‘The Sun In Scorpio’

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Your partner’s Sun is, as you know, in earthy Virgo. His Moon is in the Air sign Gemini. The following is my interpretation of what this means:

Moon In Gemini

Your Moon is in Gemini, the mutable Air sign, ruled by the planet Mercury, the messenger of the Gods of the ancients. The Air signs are the thinking signs of the zodiac and their approach to life is a masculine, outgoing, intellectual and positive one. The keyword of this sign is ‘I think’. In mythology, Gemini is represented by Castor and Pollux. During a lifetime in the sign of the twins, the human soul is offered many opportunities for establishing a connection with the heavenly twin and its earthly counterpart. In this sign the soul has to deal with the juxtaposition of its human and its divine part, i.e. its conscious and super-conscious faculties.

Within each one of us, these two parts are struggling against each other and there is a great need for each one of us to reconcile them with each other. Until the two minds of the twins are finally united into one, the law of opposites will operate within us. On the surface of things, it seems as if the constant pull of the two opposing directions of our nature were trying to tear us apart; this will stop when the twins have finally become one. These dual forces at work within each one of us are one of the greatest mysteries of life. The division and apparent opposition between the human and the Divine are not real; they are merely a part of the illusion of our earthly existence. There is no division between anything because in God, all life is truly one.

Moon in Gemini is an indication that you are shrewd, versatile and highly critical. It would be worth your while to become aware that from the subconscious level, there are dual forces fighting within you. If you want to make the spiritual progress that potentially is yours during this lifetime; at some stage in your life these forces need to be looked at and reconciled. Until you do, you will always feel as if two separate souls were living inside you, each one fighting for dominance. Because of this, you could often have the feeling as if you were suffering from a somewhat split personality.

It is important for you to develop some depth, which the many and varied experiences of your present lifetime are likely to offer you. When they come your way, be careful to avoid too much of the typical Gemini behaviour patterns. For example, Geminians enjoy skimming superficially along the surface of life’s experiences. And it is not for nothing that Gemini is known as the butterfly of the zodiac. The Chinese call it the monkey sign, because of the ceaseless chattering Geminians like to indulge in. There is a possibility that you behaved this way during your most recent lifetime; because of this it will benefit your spiritual progress greatly if you no longer act these things out.

Throughout the whole of your present lifetime, you will be searching restlessly for truth. To achieve the success you are dreaming of, it is necessary that you endeavour to be utterly honest with yourself and those around you. Without this you are quite capable of deceiving yourself and them. It is important that in this lifetime you no longer flit restlessly from one thing to another, but make an effort at focussing on and sticking with one thing at a time. Concentrating and becoming really good at something will go a long way towards co-ordinating and making into one the two souls that only apparently are fighting within you. Until you have mastered both parts, much of the time you could be in danger of being your own worst enemy.

However, your potential for finding the truth you are looking for is great. The first step towards this is the knowledge that truth will only be made available to those who seriously go in search of it. To achieve this, it is essential that you develop a certain amount of depth and the knack of peering beneath the surface of things, rather than noticing merely what is visible on the surface of life. As you are longing for knowledge and have a great appetite for learning about all manner of things, it will be beneficial if you learn to control a tendency for scattering your resources and spreading yourself too thinly.

Therefore, take extra good care never to waste precious energy by chattering too much. If this is what you are still doing now, take charge and learn to control this faculty of yours by being still and listening much of the time. This will be a great help for your nervous system, which is somewhat on the jittery side. You could at times feel as if you were being torn apart by the world of your feelings, which is changing too frequently. This too one can learn to control. If you refuse to do so, the result will be nervous tension. This could cause a lot of unnecessary suffering and even illness, at some stage in your life, which could so easily be avoided. Yoga, meditation and the power of positive thinking, in fact, any way of stilling your restless mind, is sure to bring you excellent rewards.

When you are reading this and your ties with your relatives are still over-strong, you could do nothing more beneficial for your spiritual development and general well-being than to gradually slacken these ties and shackles, which over time they are likely to have become. Do not allow the affairs of your relatives to affect your life negatively, because when this is practised for too long, you will seriously be in danger of standing in the way of your own progress. Old and outworn behaviour and thinking patterns that are no longer valid for us tend to hold us back. If they go on for too long, they may stop you from discovering the very purpose and meaning of your present lifetime.

Your very special task for this one is to develop ways of being that are uniquely your own, free from leftovers from the past and family traditions. If you are a man, you attract nervous and highly strung partners into your life. If you are a woman, this describes your own inner nature and motivations, in spite of the fact that up to now you may have been quite unaware of them, because they operate from your subconscious level.

Recommended Reading:
•    ‘The Sun In Gemini’

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I believe it was Paul who briefly touched upon the subject of projection between the two of you. I share his view and when you have taken all the above in, it is up to you to assess who could be projection what on whom.

With love and light,
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Posted 2/23/2014 6:20 AM (#24846 - in reply to #24840)
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Dear Journi – today I have prepared some wisdom from the Moon for you. Please note that this is not a psychic reading but an interpretation of what is actually moving through your life, the way it is indeed written in the stars for you. In my view, there is a world of difference between the two. My readings are strictly not fortune telling or some kind of ‘fog-knitting’, as you will soon be able to verify from your own experiences, I hope.

                                                                                    Cancer Moon Progression

For approx. the past twenty-three months you have been going through a progression that is under the influence of Cancer, the Moon’s own sign. It will continue for you only for about another seven months. This progression is a time when we feel the characteristics of the Moon in our birthchart by sign and house placement much more strongly than usual and we gradually become ever more moody and emotional than we normally are. Regardless of our basic nature and outlook on life, during this time we are likely to act and react  towards people, things and situations far more from the emotional level. This can affect our lives in many different ways.

For example, you may become more interested in the private and personal aspects of your life. You are also likely to encounter more than your usual share of people who themselves are strongly under the influence of the Moon and Cancer. Home circumstances are playing a major part in one’s life. This could include moving house, building work, alterations, and home improvements, as well as decorating and investing in new furniture and fittings. This progression has such a strong domestic slant that it could temporarily be anchoring you quite firmly to home and family. You may have to take on more responsibility for relatives, in some way. Whether this is a source of comfort or an irritation to you, depends as much on your outer circumstances as it does on your inner attitudes. There will be more dealings with your mother, even if she has passed on already. If that is the case, you may feel the need to get in touch with her in the world of spirit, possibly to make peace with her. Most of your dealings will be with female friends and relatives, especially with older women and mothering types.

Feelings of family loyalty will now strengthen and you may wish to research your family’s background. It is a good time for finding your true home and roots, your inner ones, and you may feel like delving into your past. You could set off in search of your roots, and study subjects like genealogy, history, as well as antiques. Stronger than ever before, you feel the need to identify with a group and to find your own place within it. This could be based on family, race, religion or nationality, and you could even experience a surge of patriotic feelings.  

Frequently, you will feel the need to simply retreat from the outside world, and to sink into the comfort and security of your own home. You will probably have little desire to meet new people, but prefer to stay close to reliable old friends. You will enjoy new domestic interests and gadgets, learning how to use them in and around your home. You could work from home now or start your own small business from your own back room. You could get connected with shops in some way, for example by being offered a job in one or you could open one of your own. Whether you are male of female, one way or another, you will be getting far more concerned with day to day chores. The reason for this could be just about anything, including setting up a family or retirement.  

You could become unreasonably possessive towards the people around you. At times, you may feel alienated, neglected and superfluous, and you may find that your moods fluctuate between sometimes wanting to be alone, and the next moment fearing loneliness. This flood of feelings, in itself, is nothing to be over-concerned about, and no matter how troublesome this may sometimes be, ensure to remind yourself frequently that you are dealing with feelings only. They are sure to slip into the past, as soon as this progression is over. Being aware of what is operating inside you, should help you to cope with this progression more easily.

Friends will cling to you and you will hang onto them. People you have not seen for years could suddenly come back into your life. The influence of Cancer will make itself felt in many different ways and you will enjoy dealing with women more than usual. A child conceived, during this progression, is likely to be a girl. You could start working with liquids and may feel so strongly drawn to the sea that you wish to live or work on or near it. Travel on or over water will be particularly enjoyable.

This is a time for making slow and gradual changes. You will feel the need to spend time to look inside yourself, and to review your inner needs and attitudes. Old habits could be seen as inappropriate to your present and future life, and you may decide that it is time to shed them, once and for all. You could either be setting up a family or continuing to care for one. Whatever you do, you will feel the need to keep your feelings hidden from public view. If instead of suffering one wishes to benefit from the energies that are available at any given time, one needs to learn to use them wisely. This will not only stand us in good stead, but for the rest of this lifetime, but also beyond. There will be many opportunities for becoming more familiar with yourself and in touch with yourself, as well as for bringing your inner house in order.

You will now be so strongly influenced by the Moon that you could be feeling weepy and over-emotional, much of the time. This could be a considerable nuisance to you, especially if you are not usually the emotional type. For example, if you were born into one of the air signs, like Gemini, Libra and Aquarius, who normally function on the mental and intellectual level, rather than through the emotions, like the Water signs, Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces. You may feel so weepy that you and those around you could begin to wonder whether you might be ill. Rest assured, weepiness is part of this progression and there is nothing wrong with you. If you would like more information to help you cope better with the watery aspect of this progression, see the main part of your birthchart – if indeed you have one.

A word of warning may not come amiss here. Those who do not wish to be considered a nuisance by the world around them take care not to fall into the trap of acting out the downside of Cancer. Because of their extremely high emotional sensitivity, Cancerian’s feelings get hurt very easily. As a result, young and inexperienced souls can be in constant danger of wallowing in self-pity and on the lookout for a shoulder to cry and lean on, whilst being blissfully unaware of how trying this is for the world around them. It may also be helpful to become aware that Cancerians are known to be expert manipulators of people. Try to watch out in case you feel tempted to manipulate someone into things they do not want to do and that are not good for them.

Needless to say, that is not at all what this progression is about! Rather, it deals with home and mother, on the inner and the outer level. The fourth is probably the most deeply emotional one of them all and takes us into the depths of our inner being. The way I see it, its intention is to create opportunities for taking us back to our true roots. Through the spiritual understanding we are now finding it becomes possible to change our relationships with our early home, mother and siblings. And if we so wish, we can rise above the circumstances that surrounded them and return into the consciousness of our true mother, the Great Mother of all life and our true home, the inner world and the world of spirit.

This progression is about true homecoming – into our inner home – and for re-discovering one’s inner centre. All true strength comes from there because that is our inner connection with God, the source of all life. Part of the process of working our way through to this the inner core of our being is that memories from the past seem to want to overwhelm and haunt us. It may look like this on the surface, but they are not meant to be a nuisance to us. Yet again, this is something that is being given to us for good purpose. The experiences of the past serve no further purpose any more. We need to draw our learning from it, and then bless, heal and forgive ourselves and everything that was in it.

If we make good use of the energy that is available to us now, when this progression is over, we can get on with developing other aspects of our lives, especially the creative ones. Having done the work that is required from us, during this progression, our learning will stand us in good stead for the coming one and also for the rest of this lifetime. When the next progression begins, to our amazement, we may then find that we are coping with our life much better than we ever did before. So, if during this one, our feelings are sometimes threatening to overwhelm us, it is important to remind ourselves that we shall not always be this way and react in this manner. The more we rest safely in the knowledge that things will pass, the greater the ease with which we work our way through them. Instead of suffering from the flood of our feelings, how about tuning into them, working with them and getting some lasting benefits? Only what we seriously work on, becomes rightfully be ours and can be kept forever.

For a better understanding of the energies that are at work in your life during this progression, I recommend the reading of ‘The Sun In Cancer’.

- To be continued. -

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