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| Hello. My name is Heather (hetty). I live in the UK and am considering studying the bachelors degree. I have been debating over what degree to do, whether or not to attend university etc and have decided to do an online degree. My mum introduced me to this degree and after reading through the modules, I am becoming more and more interested.
May I have some views of some people on this course? do you enjoy it and would you recommend it for helping yourself as well as towards career plans?
look forward to meeting you all.
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Location: United Kingdom | Hi and welcome Hetty
Depends what you want: as it says on the site, this is not a traditional university degree, so your studies may well not, probably won't be, recognised as formal academic qualifications. You need to be fully aware of that. But if you want a voyage into self-awareness and comparitive studies of spirituality, along with some meditation techniques and aids to develop your creativity, few better places.
Best wishes
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| Hi Hetty,
I agree with what Paul said. This is more a religious degree, so it depends on what career plans you have. If looking for a career in metaphysics, this can only help you.
As far as personal growth- it has helped me tremendously. The courses are worth that if nothing else  I really have enjoyed all the courses.
Do you have any specific questions? We can help with those, too.
D~
(Hi, PJ )
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Location: The Heart of Space | Hi Hetty and all......
I am a 9/10 Virgo and (by year) a pure Virgo.....my sun and moon were both in the constellation Spica, which is the Virgin constellation.
I, therefore, think it is unique that you begin your quest right around my "time" and one of my favorite persons replies on my birthday.
I will echo my dearest friends,,,,,,,if you want a spiritual education as opposed to something on a resume.....this might just be for you.
I would be very interested in your decision......one way or the other.
Peace,
Martry, Luckylee and Poppyhead (my zombie cat) | |
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| Happy B-Day Marty and kitties Hope it's the best year ever!
(The DH's b-day was Sept 9 and one of my newest and best friends is Sep 7- something resonates with you Virgos and me )
Hetty, I do hope you'll ask more questions if you have them and let us know what you decide. | |
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Location: The Heart of Space | Thanks Dizz........ We are cat people, as my charting indicates that we are of the Goddess Bastett. It may explain the unique phenomena that all of my cats have lived almost to thirty human years. But as I get older, I have to ask if it would be fair to have a kitten or two or three.......they well might live a long time.......but I, at my age, would be gone from them, Who that comns after me would know that these cats are destined to live beyond what most expect, They would send them to a shelter....never knowing that they were special. We are well past August, and I must recheck Poppyhead"s age.....as old as she is.....I think she has reached a milestone....and Momma Luckylee looks great!!! Peace and Paws, Martrin, Luckylee, and Poppyhead AND.....in memorium and rip to Girly Sue......8/23/2009......29 yo. The ony on who knew how to work the "Meow Meow Head" and get a treat. None of my lazy lot can do it now. | |
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Location: NE Ohio | Hello and Welcome to the board~
I do use metaphysics in my career very much. I love it and feel it's my way of life. I am 100% glad I chose UMS!
Blessings~
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| Hello lovely people. I am back. I am again considering metaphysics. I did not enrol at the time as i have been very ill. I am debating between this or open university but this appeals so much more since i have been ill, it seems a good stepping stone to helping myself and also others.
my mum and i would love to open up a healing centre for people with depression etc. we would offer homeopathic remedies etc and i think this course would be really good. at the moment, it depends very much on finance but im hoping and praying there may be a chance i can do this. | |
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| Hi, Hetty.
So sorry to see you have been ill. These courses would be great for the healing center you and your mom are thinking about opening. You will be exposed to so many different areas of healing and given many resources in each area if you wanted to go on and study them further. As far as finances, you can opt for the long plan which I did. It was just a small amount per month. If finances pick up later down the road, you can change it somewhat to get your courses faster and your payments done quicker. Just investigate all the payment options.
It took me a few years to decide whether or not to enroll. I researched many different metaphysical schools, including local ones with classes in real life as opposed to online and I found the courses here to be much more comprehensive. Anything you learn here will only enhance what you learn elsewhere. I do take some classes at the local metaphysical shop just to meet like minded people and apply some of the principles I've learned here. It all works together.
Take all the time you need. Ask all the questions you would like to. I get the feeling this school will be here for a long, long time to come
Feel better soon and lots of luck on your search. | |
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Location: NE Ohio | Hello Hetty,
I have been sick too. A whole week stuck in the hospital with pneumonia that turned into a blood infection. I honestly didn't think they were going to keep me, but they did. Back home for a couple weeks but still have fluid and left over head cold/ flu, what ever is going around. Fun fun... NOT! XP
I am glad you are making decisions in your life as to further your own life's gifts and being able to use the positive to heal others. It's quite fulfilling and beautiful in my experience.
I am actually contemplating on writing yet another dissertation, as I have so much to contribute. I have a million things I could and should write about. It's just i understand how life consumes us all. I am so busy... my kids are driving me wacky.
Their schedules in sports are opposite, yet from the same school... i don't get it. How can we be at two places at one time.... other than mentally? LOL
So i am sure everyone here understands: When the time is right, it will flow naturally and call you! You just need to pay attention to the calling!
Be well my friend, and have a very joyful happy holiday season!
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| thank you so much both of you for the lovely replies. I am going to do it! As soon as i have sorted my disability benefit and can, i am enrolling. I am so excited! other degrees i have considered have got me so stressed and anxious but i feel a sense of peace thinking about this and cant wait to start. I will find it so healing and am so excited. I live in a town called wigan in the uk, but we are moving in a coupleof years to cornwall which is more veggie freindly, more homeopathy and alternative healing opportunities and i feel that my mum and i will somehow be able to apply this degree to something when we move.
I have started a book of shadows which i am really enjoying. my mum gave me the idea. im so interested in wicca.
abit random, but we have lovely frosty weather here today. feeling peaceful. | |
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| Hetty, so good to hear you've decided once and for all! Whew! I know when I first enrolled I felt a huge sense of relief at finally having done it. So, well done, you. Hetty, I had no idea when I started how much healing I was in for on a personal level. It was definitely an unexpected plus. The only stress you feel will be the stress you may put on yourself. Take it slow, absorb and enjoy the info. I had to realize it isn't a race. It is a case where, although the destination is a wonderful thing, the journey is truly something to be enjoyed.
Though, I'm not Wiccan. A book of shadows is something I have definitely found useful and satisfying. It's so great to have the support of your mom through this. Know that you also will have our support, if you need it. Let that feeling of peace be your confirmation that you have chosen the right thing for you.
Wishing you all the best on your journey. Feel free to pm me if I can ever be of any assistance along the way. | |
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Location: United Kingdom | Agree with my esteemed colleagues.
UMS is unique, one and only.
Nice to say hello Hetty; sorry I did nor reply sooner, I have been hovering in my own shadow place. Still am, but come out occasionally, though only occasionally these days, into the Light
Blessings
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Location: NE Ohio | <p>Love you all... good decision Hetty, and I am NOT employed by UMS so I am not being payed to get one to choose us... i just choose it, because i loved it! I guess what I mean is... I felt the pull... it was meant to be! <br /></p><p> Many Blessings~</p> | |
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Location: Bandon, OR USA | I, too, am considering enrolling in UMS. I am publishing my first book, and hoping to do seminars, workshops, and retreats in the near future. I am interested in both credibility and broader knowledge so that I can better attract AND help more people. Has anyone here found that their UMS degree has really increased their exposure? And has the information translated to being able to better help the people you work with? Thanks! Hoping to make a decision soon... | |
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Location: The Heart of Space | Hello Greg: All of what I write below is my personal opinion and does not reflect on UMS in any way. As your website tells, you are in an industry where personal charm and charisma plus strategic marketing count heavily towards success. I am not sure that credentials count very much, if at all. A prime example is contained in another post ( "Whas'up With This Guy" ). After some input from Leo (who earned a PhD from UMS, and whose subject concentration is consciousness) I found out that Dain Heer prefers to use the title Dr. That is okay, in so far as he is a Doctor of Chiropractic. But, how this qualifies him as a teacher of "access consciousness" I have yet to figure out. I will remind you of the story of John Gray. Tremendously successful with the book "Men Are From Mars Women Are From Venus"; he survived the fact that he "borrowed" heavily from the work of Deborah Tannen but got into a bit of a mess when he began using Dr. It was not because he didn't have a PhD. He did! It was more that he lead reasonable people to believe that his doctorate was granted by other than California Pacific University, which is a mail-order school that had been constantly investigated as a diploma mill. It took a while for him to recover from this, and his earnings have been modest since then (at least compared to the "MAFM WAFV" days of 18 million copies sold. If approached with the right attitude and spirit, a UMS degree can be a very valuable thing. It may also have some professional advantage, depending on the profession. You will not be able to use it in any traditional academic institution. It is not recognized. You may not use it in most job environments that require formal, accredited education, as, again, it is not recognized. It does not qualify as a "distance learning" degree here in the USA, and does not have distance learning accreditation; and I believe that is also true in many European countries. So, I would be careful particularly with the marketing strategy of adding titles to one's name in order to entice business. One could get "Grayed Out". Having said all that, there is nothing wrong with earning a traditional degree. Sure, it takes time and a fair chunk of change. But, BAs/BSs are a breeze these days, and MA's/MS's are not as time consuming as they used to be, particularly MBA's (which are the new badge of vocational education). The PhD...that's the one that is a bit of a chore-and that is as it SHOULD be! Peace, Marty (BA-Catholic University of America) and LuckyLee (PhD-Catolick University of America) I have edited this to get rid of an emoticon that occurred when I typed " - quote mark, close paren.........and the emoticon popped up by itself........jeez louise..........
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| AspireGreg - 2/27/2014 5:28 PM
I, too, am considering enrolling in UMS. I am publishing my first book, and hoping to do seminars, workshops, and retreats in the near future. I am interested in both credibility and broader knowledge so that I can better attract AND help more people. Has anyone here found that their UMS degree has really increased their exposure? And has the information translated to being able to better help the people you work with? Thanks! Hoping to make a decision soon...
Greg, I have only just received my Master's degree so UMS hasn't really Increased my exposure on a large scale, but I didn't really expect it to. Similar to what Marty said, I think your own marketing of yourself is what does that. I do know that many of the local metaphysical shops near me have practitioners working in them that are Doctors of one thing or another and I think it does give some of the clients some confidence in them. However, there are many, many practitioners who do not have letters after their names and I can only hope to ever be as skilled as they are.
I think for workshops, lectures, and retreats, having the letters does inspire confidence that people are getting their moneys worth and not scammed, but again- that's really on you, your intentions and your marketing.
I have heard (and noticed) that most of the books written by spiritual teachers all have PhD or Doctor of such and such after their names. ( Though it's difficult to know where any of them got those credentials.)
The school will definitely give you a broader knowledge, and the course on attracting clients was wonderful, in my opinion. What I have noticed in my own experience is that the courses and projects required provide opportunities where you must have another person or groups of people willing to listen to your spiel or participate in some way so that you can get the work accomplished. The people that participate seem to spread the word that I am working on these things and then willing participants become potential students or clients. It's almost as though opportunities are falling into my lap. It's up to me to embrace the opportunities and do something with them! I am not much of a marketing person, so I'm unsure where this will all take me. I am convinced, though, that a person who does have the charisma as Marty mentioned, and the ability and willingness to market themselves will benefit in major ways from these courses. (Ways you probably are not even considering at this point. I found the school not only taught me how to help other people but it remarkably taught me to heal myself in areas I didn't even realize needed healing)
Best of luck as you make your decision of whether or not to enroll. You can't base it on what we say, but I will say I have absolutely no regrets and I have learned things about myself and others that are invaluable to me. I don't see how anyone could go wrong with these courses. You may grow personally in ways you never imagined, and having some letters after your name couldn't really hurt....
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Location: United Kingdom | I agree with Disa and Marty - great replies from you both ..
I work in academia in the UK and my UMS quals are not recognised ... I kind of did it for myself, as it is very difficult - well I did not find it possible - to find a course that combined such elements of meditation, practice, creativity, spirituality, therapetic endeavour, with disciplined thinking ... most academic PhDs are too hung up on intellectualising ... and indeed many folk who appear in the media 'pontificating' [non-deliberate pun] and referring to themselves as 'Dr' and having a formally recognised PhD are not always impressive either
A certain British entertainer/hypnotist has also made a lot of money on stage and screen, and he also got into some hot water for using a PhD accreditation that the media found suspect.
I think you can write a great book, and not have academic credentials and equally, have the credentials and not write a great book ..
The libraries are full of unread learned articles.
Three of the greatest souls ever (Buddha, Socrates, Jesus), never wrote down a single word, so far as we know; nor had academic qualifications
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| And are there not great souls about whom we might never have heard too ...?
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Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida | And I agree with the three of you (Paul, Marty and Disa) very wise and good advice. However, in this day and age credentials often give credence to one's work Too often one will overlook the work of a gifted person for that of a credentialed person. It is what it is. In the risk of one thinking me off the reservation, I was advised from an entity (not of this reality) to pursue the UMS course of study to lend credence to my work as a Light Worker. While I haven't published a book or taught any classes, I believe that my credentials have helped me when speaking to individuals about spiritual and metaphysical subjects
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| Hello everyone, I'm back again. I eventually ended up enrolling on a UK online creative writing degree, a subject i used to love but the pressure of this degree is changing that. I have struggled with mental health problems and am seriously struggling. Years two and three are much harder and the tutors try and get us to get assignments word perfect. It feels like i'm being squashed under this huge rock. Then i look at metaphysics and just feel peaceful. I'm on the brink of tears right now (sorry to share) and of quitting my current degree to change over to metaphysics. I dont know what to do for the best. | |
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Location: The Heart of Space | HiyaHeti:
My advice.....a bit of soul searching seems to be in order. What do you want this degree, or that degree or any degree for?
You don't need a creative writing degree to be a writer.....JK Rowling doesn't have one-she started at a kitchen table. You don't need a metaphysics degree to be "metaphysical."
What are your hopes, dreams and ambitions?
If the above things coincide with your intellectual curiosity, seeking and earning a degree will become a walk in the park! Because-you will love what you are doing, you will want to do it, and you will feel that certain sense of fulfillment and contentment that comes with the achievement.
Peace and Paws,
Marty and LuckyLee
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| Hetty, I am so sorry you are so distressed and on the brink of tears. I agree with Marty. You must figure out what the degree means to you and what you plan to do with it (either the one you are currently working on or the metaphysical one.) Once you make up your mind you will feel relieved that the decision is made. If the writing courses you are taking are not what you expected, there is no need to torture yourself over it unless having that particular degree is something you really, really want. You must also understand that these metaphysical courses will have you looking deeply into yourself and facing things you may not have expected to face. It can be scary for some people to do things such as work on their shadow selves, but to me, the courses were healing. Wishing you all the best. | |
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Location: United Kingdom | Hi Hetty
yes think Disa and Marty have given wise counsel .... what is your heart saying to you ... yearning for ...?
I suspect neither the creative writing course nor the UMS degree might get you a 'job', but maybe it is about what frame of reference you want to enter and be in ... like Alice through the looking glass .... what do you want to see when you look in the mirror?
I agree it is hard, maybe impossible, to feel one has found one's life purpose; but it can be the journey itself that becomes and is the purpose ... I realize now I am paraphrasing St Theresa, without relaizing it, sorry so have to give the source - all the way to Heaven is Heaven ... one of my favourite quotes...
And yes, I have no idea why life is so painful, but it is; and gets more so as one gets older, where once I thought the opposite would be the case.
Nice to see you back here anyway.
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Location: The Heart of Space | Me2......+1 Peace to all, Marty and LuckyLee
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hello-thinking of enrolling