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Tracy Martin
Posted 10/2/2008 4:02 PM (#10676 - in reply to #10304)
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Hey! Is this the same practice as the Vedantic "neti, neti" which in practice is self-inquiry and means "not this, not this" as one attempts to define ones self? When I have struggled with thoughts and identifications this practice helps to remind me that indeed I am not this (thought, beleif, emotion). 
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Paul Joseph
Posted 10/2/2008 4:13 PM (#10678 - in reply to #10676)
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I am sure it is; it is all connected, at the deepest sub-strata. I like to go, feel the need to go, to the sources of origin.

The Valley of the Shadow of Death is from the Psalms of the Old Testament,; cannot check which one, at this moment; but will, if nobody else does by tomorrow morning !

The Psalms also speak of us 'hiding in the shadow of Thy wings'. i have always loved that imagery. It is retold in each Jewish service for the dead.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 10/2/2008 4:57 PM (#10684 - in reply to #10669)
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Dear Louise

Nice of you to look into the Via Negativa .... I think another resonance to it is in the Tao Te Ching, where it says,

'The Way that can be named is not the constant Way'

Namaste, Numberless One
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Tracy Martin
Posted 10/2/2008 6:09 PM (#10685 - in reply to #10304)
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Psalm 23 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil. 
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Louise
Posted 10/2/2008 9:37 PM (#10693 - in reply to #10685)
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I just love the flow and beat of the sentence - as i walk through the valley of the shadow of death - it just rolls - its beautiful. I downloaded Coolio's rap song Gangsta's Paradise because of the lyrics - I think they are quite thought provoking:

Verse One:

As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death
I take a look at my life and realize theres not much left
Cuz I've been blastin and laughin so long
That even my mama thinks that my mind is gone
But I ain't never crossed a man that did't deserve it
He be treated like a punk, you know that son heard up
You better watch how you talkin' and where you walkin'
Or you and your homiez might be lined in chalk
I really hate to trip, but I gotta, Loc
As they cope, I see myself in the pistol smoke, fool
I'm the kinda G the little homiez wannabe like
On my knees in the night
Saying prayers in the street light

Chorus:

We've been spending most our lives living in the Gangsta's Paradise
We've been spending most our lives living in the Gangsta's Paradise
We've been spending most our lives living in the Gangsta's Paradise
We've been spending most our lives living in the Gangsta's Paradise

Verse Two:

They got the situation
They got me facin'
I can't live with no more rights
I was raised by the stripes
So I gotta be down with the hood team
Too much television watchin' got me chasin' dreams
I'm an educated fool with money on my mind
Got my 10 in my hand and the green in my eye
Im a loced-out gangsta set-trippin banger
And my homiez is, so don't arouse my anger, fool
Death ain't nuthin' but a heartbeat away
I'm livin' life doin' time, what can I say?
I'm 23, now how will I live to see 24
The way things is goin', I dunno

Chorus:

Tell me why are we so blind to see
That the ones we hurt are you and me

We've been spending most our lives living in the Gangsta's Paradise
We've been spending most our lives living in the Gangsta's Paradise
We've been spending most our lives living in the Gangsta's Paradise
We've been spending most our lives living in the Gangsta's Paradise

Verse Three:

Power and the money, money and the power
Minute after minute, hour after hour
Everybody's runnin', but half of them ain't lookin'
At whats goin' on in the kitchen
But I dont know what's kickin'
They say I gotta learn, but nobody's here to teach me
If they can't understand it, how can they reach me?
I guess they can't
I guess they won't
I guess they front
That's why I know my life is outta luck, fool

Chorus:

We've been spending most our lives living in the Gangsta's Paradise
We've been spending most our lives living in the Gangsta's Paradise
We've been spending most our lives living in the Gangsta's Paradise
We've been spending most our lives living in the Gangsta's Paradise

Tell me why are we so blind to see
That the ones we hurt are you and me

Tell me why are we so blind to see
That the ones we hurt are you and me

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Do you think he's going through the dark night of the soul? What do you make of it?
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Paul Joseph
Posted 10/3/2008 3:41 AM (#10698 - in reply to #10304)
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I think much of modern 'pop' culture, call it what we will, reflects far deeper, even mythic themes, spiritual, yearning, etc ... maybe also that's why - not maybe, i think definitely! - AA Fellowships are so strong, cos they recognise the Higher Power;

so I agree, the above may well be a dark night rendering ...

Sometimes too I think we all come here to experience that; well, ok, speaking personally, that's what I have experienced, do experience, here in this reality. The trick is also, then, to be able to recognise and allow to exist in oneself, the Light
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