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soulfire
Posted 9/14/2008 6:00 PM (#10208)
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with this particular certification, what are you qualified for? What type of practitioner are you (or is that sometthing you decide) and how does it help you?
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Paul Joseph
Posted 9/15/2008 5:52 PM (#10226 - in reply to #10208)
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Hello Soulfire

Did you see my post on the Spiritual Workers Association ?

Love & Blessings

Paul
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soulfire
Posted 9/16/2008 9:31 AM (#10243 - in reply to #10208)
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I did see it, Paul, but not sure I understand it? I will go check out the website when this migraine comepletely goes away. It's mostly gone but the residual bad headache can go on for days and affects thinking clearly.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 9/16/2008 9:39 AM (#10247 - in reply to #10243)
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Sorry about the headache ... to explain a little more, in the UK, spiritual healing is coming under close governmental scrutiny such that folk are being cautioned that they cannot make any claims that such healing works or is effective ... the SWA set up to provide some protection and collegiality for practitioners. This may be mainly a UK problem, bu the SWA welcomes international membership too, so i believe. It is all explained on their site.

Healing blessings for the Head to You x
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soulfire
Posted 9/17/2008 2:37 PM (#10281 - in reply to #10247)
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OK I went to their website and am going to join asap. I liked what I saw. :) I'd like to support it once I get my paperwork squared away.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 9/17/2008 3:12 PM (#10283 - in reply to #10281)
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Head and paperwork rounding off blessings to you then .... we need all the collegiality we can muster !

great location if I may say !!! (I have tweaked mine in inspired willingness)

Edited by Paul Joseph 9/17/2008 3:16 PM
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mruppert
Posted 9/17/2008 10:43 PM (#10291 - in reply to #10208)
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Hi Dancepartner:
      The headaches will go away with the application of magnetics. Although the research is new, and under peer review, the results are exciting.
      This is not some New Age bs, this is solid research. I will send you the link as soon as I find a way to send you the link. But it is in (infancy) several med journals and in Science. You can google anytime, on your own, but use Google Scholar....you will skip the silly-stupid sites.

P&L,
Marty and Luck, Popp and Siss
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Supernatural3
Posted 9/18/2008 1:03 AM (#10292 - in reply to #10208)
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I was under the impression that the laws of some states (US) ask that in order to do spiritual type or religious type of counseling, one must have practitioner certification from a valid licensed place.

UMS is licensed, as I am now licensed through the State of Ohio as a Minister and now Reverend (which I have yet to send the second one in, due to the other one already being listed), the practitioner certification just shows that you have been officially trained to counsel, as long as it's spirit / religiously natured.

I am not sure if being a 501(c)3 has anything to do with it or not. 

I am certainly not a lawyer and it may differ from state to state here in the US. I just believe it's more credential to back you, in the event you want to do business with clients.
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soulfire
Posted 9/18/2008 11:41 AM (#10297 - in reply to #10292)
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This is the reply back from UMS about it:
"Thank you for your inquiry. The practitioners certificate is to give further backing to your ability as a minister to do hands on healing. Not massage, but spiritual hands on energy work, or something of the sort. This is recognized nationally, however, we do ask all of our students to check in with their local city hall to learn about any local regulations."

:) K
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mruppert
Posted 9/18/2008 10:43 PM (#10301 - in reply to #10208)
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Yes, yes....for instance in Howard County, MD, massage is regulated by an entirely different set of laws than, say, spiritual healing. Massage is thought to be a (to put it bluntly) sexual activity.....at least the presumption is there.

One of the largest accredited "spiritual" schools, Tia Sophia U, located in Laurel, MD teaches massage and does so with little governmental interference. But, the school prepares spiritual healers probably as well most medical schools prepare young doctors.

My point is that there is definitley a difference in perception!

Peace n' Love,

Marty and Luck, Popp and Sistergirl

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Supernatural3
Posted 9/18/2008 10:51 PM (#10302 - in reply to #10208)
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yep, guess i forgot to add spiritual healing along with mental healing (spiritual counseling).
I think both of those really need or might need a practitioners certificate.

Basically everything comes down to healing with metaphysics, or so it seems.

Thanks for posting, I think I did remember that prior, just forgot. Since its been a couple years since I graduated, i sometimes feel out of the loop. I should refresh.

One large question I have is: I took some of the courses I chose for the degrees, but.... what if I would like to take more, even though I have the degree, can I get access or learn more. Are they separately priced? or can we purchase bonus material?

I ask because there are new things offered now, that were not available back then, so some are striking my attention.

Thank you to anyone who knows the answer to this.
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mruppert
Posted 9/18/2008 11:58 PM (#10305 - in reply to #10208)
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Hi DocJay:

     You must know that you have this Midwestern "aw shucks" way of putting things, but you have the same Midwestern knack of hitting the nail on the head. Of course, knowledge advances and history changes. The courses you took (I hope) are revised and updated and change from what you learned, even only a few years ago. This is the process of history and of learning...of which History is most integral.

     I based a decision I made today on a belief of the ancient Egyptians...reinterpretted hundreds of times by hundreds of historians.....but all agreed in fundamental principal......agreement that spans 7,000 years.

My take on it is this, if it worked for them 7000 years ago, and we still debate about it in 2008, then it is gonna work for me! Historians don't argue about trivial things!

Peace and Love  Profound,

Marty and The Three....Luck, Popp and Siss

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Supernatural3
Posted 9/19/2008 6:25 AM (#10306 - in reply to #10208)
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Hey there Marty,
Yeah, I can get updates to the courses I already took. UMS does send updates to our log in area, when something has been added. But I am talking about some of the very interesting topics that I did NOT choose back then. Since more are now available, I just want to learn more....

I am not in any school right now, while it feels great not to have deadlines or homework, I really miss it. Frankly, I am bored and want to do something with my time. I can only clean house, do dishes and laundry so much. Work is slow..... working on that.

Thanks for responding. Hope your really enjoying your courses. I know they are wonderful~

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Tracy Martin
Posted 9/19/2008 8:43 PM (#10310 - in reply to #10208)
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Yes, UMS students may get more electives. There is a cost of $10 each, except for Attracting Your Mate which has a Cd and is $15. We will also have an online store...eventually!
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Paul Joseph
Posted 9/20/2008 8:58 AM (#10315 - in reply to #10310)
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Tried to log in to my ums student account to refresh myself yesterday and my log-in details were not recognised ... I have lgged in before since completing the programme ... oh dear ... does this mean there is an expiry time, or am i logging in the wrong details I wonder ?
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Katrina
Posted 7/31/2009 9:28 AM (#16300 - in reply to #10208)
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This is a wonderfully informative thread! Thank you.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/31/2009 12:33 PM (#16304 - in reply to #16300)
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mruppert
Posted 8/1/2009 7:13 PM (#16330 - in reply to #10208)
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Hi all:
     I was reviewing this thread and PJ said something that, tangentially, caused some confusion and clarity in my mind.
From his post:
"to explain a little more, in the UK, spiritual healing is coming underclose governmental scrutiny such that folk are being cautioned thatthey cannot make any claims that such healing works or is effective .."
     If you all would, please hop over to a thread that has started concernng H1N1..those dirty  swinehundts!

Peace and Gravity,
Marty and Floating Cats, Luck, Poppy, and Sissybubblehead
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