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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/12/2008 7:00 AM (#9029 - in reply to #9027)
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Is that Matthew 5:43 you were citing Tracy?:

" You have heard it said, 'You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy'. But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may the children of your Father in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous."

Interesting point, thanx.

Blessings
Paul
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Tracy Martin
Posted 8/12/2008 12:10 PM (#9043 - in reply to #8806)
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I thought we were sharing viewpoints, and certainly want to understand. It seemed to me that the only reason not to pray, to ask for light (let it burn!) was fear or doubt in the good will of the Highest. Although I understand that we have the ability to misuse power...so now I'm not so sure anymore . I'm alright about it , and I apologize for not fully understanding even the Reiki viewpoint of asking for permission to send healing vibrations. Of course, that person may have valuable lessons to learn through suffering..I don't think I am powerful enough to override the will of Spirit, let alone bring about a miraculous healing. I do believe that my prayers and intentions lend helpful energies though. It has been a rare occasion indeed when I have been directed to NOT pray, and I could stand to pray a whole lot more than I do. Please don't feel offended, I am just stating where I am coming from.

I have been holding you (Danny) and your friend in loving light, desiring and visualizing the opening of the heart, the healing of mind, body, spirit. I have some confidence that with a friend like you, who has asked for a cooperative extension of power, is exactly what your friend is needing at this time.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/12/2008 1:22 PM (#9048 - in reply to #9043)
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Thanks Tracy for noticing my confusion here also. It wasn't my doubt in the goodwill of the Highest ... it was/is a number of things, including the possible misuse of intention, the powerful effects of the Healing Light, etc ...

.... there is another NT passage in Luke, but I've lost the reference now, where JC is telling the disciples to go to new towns and from house to house, and take their peace into the house, but if their peace is not accepted, to withdraw, together with their peace !

... with the prayer of true heart, indeed anything may be possible.

Namaste
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Tracy Martin
Posted 8/12/2008 1:27 PM (#9051 - in reply to #8806)
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By the way, JC also said it would be like heaping coals of fire on their heads!


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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/12/2008 2:08 PM (#9052 - in reply to #9051)
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... which is exactly the root of my concern !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Supernatural3
Posted 8/12/2008 2:40 PM (#9057 - in reply to #8806)
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If that was possible, spontanious combustion would have happened all over the place.

Zipping mouth~ ROFL
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/13/2008 3:56 AM (#9072 - in reply to #9057)
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isn't that happening ? ... the human world scene is fairly hot .... ha ha; my mouth also now zipped in non-ism x

Edited by Paul Joseph 8/13/2008 4:10 AM
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mruppert
Posted 8/16/2008 7:45 AM (#9298 - in reply to #8806)
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Hi all:
From Instinct: "I believe the energy will go where it needs to go...yet in Reikiattunements it was banged into our heads to always specifically getconsent...never to assume that a particular person is wanting energywhen you are ready to give it..."
 
The Stinctual is essentially correct....you should be invited to the energetic healing or, as a sufferer,  seek it out. Seeking it means you want it; accepting the invitation means you are open to it.
BUT, IT DOES NOT WORK FOR THOSE THAT CLOSE IT OFF! I know this, first hand, folks!!! It does work even though I did not say I wanted it, but knew that it was being done. Just as effective as if I said, "Oh...come on...Gabriela.....heal my shoulder!"
    I will argue this vehemently from now until doomsday...energetic healing does, indeed, work. There are only two essential elements for it to happen:
1) The recipient must have FAITH....not the kind of faith that brings people with cancer to Lourdes and think that if they drink the water they will be cured, because they won't be cured! They will die.  But, the kind of faith that says one will experience the power of the universe.....a power that is beyond all named gods.....and is GOD!
2) I have done this for beyond twenty years.....and just tossed into the bin shelves of healing books, tapes and cds. Got no room for them! There are thousands of REIKI masters....most of which are totally useless to you, the sufferer. Many are directed by whatever force to try to become a REIKI healer and are told that he or she is attuned, but...believe me....they are nothing more or less than a bit poorer in money. There are, however, a minute percentage of people who do REIKI and other forms of energetic healing quite successfully. They are the "naturals" that I have always talked about.
     My last of our group of RA's is a natural healer. She does what she does for NO MONEY....she does it simply because she can. She has admitted that REIKI and Quantum Touch and Matrix Energetics are just conventions to make people feel more comfortable with what she does....and she will wrap your broken ankle in cabbage...because her great great grandmother used to do that.....but your ankle will be healed the very next day!!!! Ahhh...the power of cabbage!

Sincere peace,
Marty and Kitties, Luck, Popp and Siss
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instinctual
Posted 8/18/2008 10:14 PM (#9370 - in reply to #8806)
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Wow, cabbage! I love that...gotta try that next time I have a boo boo. Old world Italians believe that if you slice potatoes thinly and place them on the forehead of a feverish child, the potato takes away the fever. ( It does..and those taters are hot when you remove them! ) Of course it does not remove the cause of the fever, but makes the feverish more comfortable. Also, when you have something in your eye, take a shot glass, fill it half way with milk, and lavage your eye with it..it sooths the irritation and the enzymes in the milk somehow remove the foreign particle!

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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/19/2008 4:36 AM (#9374 - in reply to #9370)
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Good advice Lori, thanks; and of course, first take out the beam in one's own eye, before commenting on the mote in the eye of another ! (sorry, could not resist that - or did you feed me the link line?) xx
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instinctual
Posted 8/19/2008 11:33 AM (#9378 - in reply to #8806)
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I didn't feed it, intentionally! But amazing that you detected that!
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mruppert
Posted 8/22/2008 5:33 AM (#9580 - in reply to #8806)
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Innsystink....it is not the potatoes or the cabbage in and of itself...though both are very good foodstuffs...you could survive quite well on them...it is the hands that apply them!

Your Nona, or maybe StregaNona used the potatoes as a talisman, a symbol, so that the true nature of what was actually happening could be masked from the source...a source that we might, still to this day, burn at the stake...by means of exploitation.

There are true healers! I can take as many REIKI courses as I want or desire..but I will never ever ever be one of them!

I don't mean this in a derogatory way, but you may take the test to become a member of Mensa, and most likely you will not make it. It is a scant 2% of the general population who have iq's at a certain level...that which is needed to be in the top percentile and to gain membership. Because I could, does that make me better than others? NO WAY...not by a long shot! But it does make me different from a vast number of others.

True Healers are even fewer in numbers. But they exist......and most never heard of REIKI, yet they practice it all the time!

P&L,

Marty and Hungry Cats...food us!

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instinctual
Posted 8/22/2008 1:39 PM (#9618 - in reply to #8806)
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Marty! Not sure what Mensa has to do with the price of eggs in New Jersey, but I do believe you! I have a solid IQ, one which I chose for myself in this life ( probably, LOL)! and that, I will share is 138. Smart people sorta scare me. You are very smart...but you don't scare me. Well, you did at first until I got to know you..I thought you were like a Bull in a China Shop. I felt threatened by you...I gotta hand it to you, you do have some redeeming qualities. You have the stuff...but show us your marshmallow insides, and for this, I hold you in the highest regard.
Peace to you always, Mensa Man...and to your herbivore feline companions too!

I actually came on to this thread to ask Danny how his friend is!...then noticed Sir Mart's post.

How is your friend, Danny?
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instinctual
Posted 8/22/2008 7:36 PM (#9641 - in reply to #9580)
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Also, I hear ya Mart- your message is well received...that we/society/groups love love love to attach labels to things, as if by doing so elevates the meaning of who we are by way of superiority. There are naturals and there are not naturals, people that want to be perceived as supreme so they identify with particular groups, call themselves healers, etc. We are what we are. And my Nona was the bomb-diggity, dude! Thanks

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because the clock is near five
we are breathing, the sun is shining
It's great to be alive!
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sunflower
Posted 8/23/2008 2:58 AM (#9644 - in reply to #9580)
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aww shucks,and god dammit,i wrote a big post,and it wouldn,t go through,yet again,why is it when the truth is told,it keeps being denied.And who ois tom cambell from london,with,"my big toe"making LOADS of money,doctor spinoff,wizard of oz,this is a BAD day,for ALL.
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sunflower
Posted 8/23/2008 3:03 AM (#9645 - in reply to #9644)
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ahh that went through,no surprises,or gifts.Reikki is another form of a peice of paper,meaning nothing but empty pockets.All those certificates on the wall,by post,mean nothing.Love is all,oits being abused,divoine don,t like that,mother nature is angry,she will fight back,in seven days and one,look at the news.tut,tut,am i dissilusioned,no,cos i never beleived the paper,but i know i have been healed,by love.x
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/23/2008 8:51 AM (#9652 - in reply to #9645)
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I don;t know who who Tom Campbell is either ... but as just noted elsewhere , is he related to old Big Toe Campbell from the north country, that erstwhile line man for the county who vanished on the trail of the lonesome pine, some say drowned hanging certificates in his cabin on a precipice by the fire, others that he looked back and turned into a pillar of the community of salt dwellers, who pan for haddock with never a fish to fry .... but then who knows, Not I !!

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sunflower
Posted 8/23/2008 11:06 AM (#9660 - in reply to #9652)
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sometimes,oftentimes,one can appear to clever for their own good,whilst presuming other less knowledable mortals are in the dark,not so,coat of many colours,technicolour dream,just dream on.Where is muppet mr when you need him,off to lampeter,hope to meet him,though he must be told,i cannot drive,but i do a mean strike with the gammel.........
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/23/2008 11:12 AM (#9663 - in reply to #9660)
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Dear Sunflower, I was trying to laugh and joke as I thought that is what was enjoyable ... if you are meaning that I was trying to be too clever, then I must apologise.

Not trying to be clever or funny at all then, I would be very grateful if you could enlighten me as to what you have been meaning by Tom Campbell, by comments about certificates, etc etc. I just do not know what you mean.

Paul
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sunflower
Posted 8/23/2008 11:24 AM (#9666 - in reply to #9663)
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no no paulo,i wasn,t saying you were trying to be tooclever,that would never be the case,never,i am assuming you are knowing what i mean,am i being thick,as opposed to your clever,i love panpipes,i love laughter,but i am slightly disturbed(not mentaly you understand)about about all the sites popping up out of the wild blue yonder,and someone is using my celestial connection,you must flay them asap,if you are to be the knight i understood you to be,too many cooks,spoil the broth,ahh,i am so weary,laugh with me,if you so wish,laughter is high energy,celestial energy.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/23/2008 11:28 AM (#9667 - in reply to #9666)
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Oh that's alright then; you had me worried; or I had myself worried. I don;t know about any other sites, I am simply true to this one; but not too good at the flay-ing thing, although the flayed God of the Corn sounds cool ...

.. by the way, Joseph Campbell, long since deceased, was an American professor of comparitive mythology, who wrote many I think wonderful books about the essential unity of all religious systems, his most famous book being, The Hero With A Thousand Faces.

He described the hero journey, that we all undergo in our lifetimes, as being one of trial and darkness, leading to liberation and, what he called, at-one-ment, ie, union with the Divine Spirit.
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sunflower
Posted 8/23/2008 11:34 AM (#9671 - in reply to #9667)
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oh my,you had me worried too,or too i was worried,if you say that word worried for long enough,doesn,t it sound odd,it makes me worry.x
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/23/2008 11:37 AM (#9672 - in reply to #9671)
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Then let's stop saying it ! (worry, that is!).

No worries ! xx

Hugs & laughter

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sunflower
Posted 8/23/2008 11:41 AM (#9674 - in reply to #9672)
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haha! i will be concerned no more,is concerned the same as worried,(joke)let us speak of lighter things,love and hugs,irisx
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/23/2008 12:00 PM (#9685 - in reply to #9674)
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Hugs, love & lighter later ... gotta go ... good to commune ... enjoy Lampeter xx
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