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sunflower
Posted 7/26/2008 10:22 AM (#7748)
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hi all,i,ve always loved birds,and have my own thoughts on them,but i find at certain significant times in my life,when i have felt down,low,happy,whatever,i have seen a certain bird,that sems to me to convey a message.Imay sound mad,i know,but so be it.When my daughter died,for a week,when i was talking to her in my mind,asking for a sign,i saw a robin,right in front of my window,that came every day for a week,whereas,there had been no birds before.Now many years have passed,and i am in a better place,mentaly,phycologicaly,i walk through the woods near me,as i love nature,healing,so it is,i talk in my mind to my loved one,about the day,etc,ordinary conversation,and i ask,if she is not busy where she is,home,to walk with me,i sometimes see a robin,suddeny appear,right beside me,singing away,it feels good.Another example,my eldest son,who has been jited at the 11th hour,so no wedding,who rarely visits,as he lives quite far away,came down,a lovely surprise,but he was so sad,and broken hearted,we cried together,then suddenly,a magpie landed right on the windowsill,stayed awhile,then flew off.I have never in my 5 yrs of living here seen a magpie.these are just some of the many examples.Now i beleive a lot of truth is spoken in what they call"old wives tales",and a lot of wisdom,the old ways to me,are the best,natural.i also beleive some,maybe all,birds are like angels,just as i beleive,animals we have,are sent to us for a certain reason,purpose,when that purpose is fulfilled,they leave,either through passing,or wondering off.So many things to say,so many things seen,but i,llstop now,and hope that maybe someone will respond,with their own story.
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MollyB
Posted 7/26/2008 11:17 AM (#7757 - in reply to #7748)
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Hi Iris!

I've always been drawn to birds (well all animals). They are such stellar messengers. I am completely in awe of Crows and Ravens, something I've carried throughout my life. My most recent experience was with a Swallow. I was watching the Mommy and Daddy feed their little brood of three...marveling at how quick and agile they were...when one flew in front of me and dropped a feather. Now I know the energy of the swallow is one of protection and having the right perspective, and those were reminders I certainly needed at this time.

So you are not alone in your connection to our feathered brothers and sisters.

Take care and love to you!

MollyB
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/26/2008 11:21 AM (#7759 - in reply to #7757)
Subject: RE: birds



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With you both too ... I have many tales of birds from observations on the Heath where I walk and swim daily ... too many to bore you with, no doubt ... they also figure widely in sacred and ancient symbolism (look at the dove in Genesis too !)

I also had an experience after my father died, involving birds, well a number really

... isn't there a Sufi story called, The Conference of the Birds ? Maybe not Sufi, will need to look that one up ...

.......and there is also Rose's lovely Owl !!
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Tracy Martin
Posted 7/26/2008 12:00 PM (#7764 - in reply to #7748)
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Boy do I have bird stories! I feed peanuts to some California Blue Jays and have gotten to know a few of them personally. They have colored bands on their feet so I can recognize them. They make a lot more sounds than just the usual piercing squawks and have shared some of their softer songs with me. One bird thinks she owns me, the porch and all the peanuts. She is here first and stops by through out the day to beg me for more peanuts. They try to take more than one or two at a time and it gets pretty hilarious. I just hope they keep being faster and trickier than the neighborhood cats.

Oh yes, they are called "stellar" jays!
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/26/2008 12:46 PM (#7770 - in reply to #7764)
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They leave Hampstead Heath at sunrise, returning just before sunset, going into the City, as if commuting ...
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Tracy Martin
Posted 7/26/2008 6:06 PM (#7812 - in reply to #7748)
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That was a lovely line Paul!
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/26/2008 6:12 PM (#7817 - in reply to #7812)
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Lovely of you to notice, dearest Tracy, thank you &

Blessings &

Goodnight ... xx
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/29/2008 8:26 AM (#7915 - in reply to #7748)
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Dear C ... have you yet then checked out a couple of old threads, Animal Power, and Communing with Creation ? May be of interest.

Another bee adventure on Sunday .. one had fallen into a pot of water I leave out for birds to bathe/drink in .... hardly could see it, so dark and sodden it was .... managed to get it out and after an age of wandering around in a dazed state (the bee, as well as me on that weekend just gone), it suddenly was dry, alive and zoomed away over my shoulder ... just shows one can never say die !

Beee well All
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/29/2008 8:27 AM (#7916 - in reply to #7915)
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.... and what form of address do you prefer please .. ? screen name or C ?
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sunflower
Posted 7/29/2008 10:11 AM (#7924 - in reply to #7916)
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ahh,so many ostriches....
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/29/2008 10:16 AM (#7925 - in reply to #7924)
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Sorry, Sunflower; could you please illuminate what you say about ostriches ? It lends itself to many inferences. Having come back to the Board from a couple of days absence, am just trying to catch up, so your clarification would be welcomed ...
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/30/2008 4:03 AM (#7978 - in reply to #7915)
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Rhymes with 'Tara', who, I think, were the ancient kings of Ireland; and mixes with 'care' !

blessings
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sunflower
Posted 8/3/2008 7:25 AM (#8322 - in reply to #7748)
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ahh,i find vultures very interesting,they swoop down from nowhere,having first marked out their pray,and take,unmercifuly,from the unsuspecting vulnerable,when they have had their fill,they move on,to pastures new.They do not communicate with other birds,especialy the white dove,for they know,they cannot take their heart,spirit,soul,a bird i would not like to communicate to,the white dove,on the other hand,speaks to all who are pure.The white eagle,a very wise bird,much to learn from them,but alas,the human does not listen,for fear of hearing the truth.The robin awaits,the song is sweet,i will lay down beside the flowing stream,where he drinks from the pure water,and ask in love,may i drink too.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/3/2008 10:11 AM (#8348 - in reply to #8322)
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I quite like vultures too; rather like flies, they have an unfortunate mission in life, so are to respected.

Condors are fascinating; big & Andes-high


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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/4/2008 4:13 AM (#8395 - in reply to #7748)
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There is also a condor at Nazca airport; there were two, but the female flew away in search of better days or more fun at least. If I remember rightly, his name is Pepe. He is very big, and some thoughtless folk try to feed him beer.
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Chotuni
Posted 8/4/2008 8:27 AM (#8412 - in reply to #7916)
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Kiddo, Glad to hear you are happy as you are, but having an alter ego can be very liberating, you can live anywhere you want, do things that you would never normally do and have fun.As long as it hurts no-one and is not for illegal purposes I don't see the harm.

Edited by Chotuni 8/4/2008 8:29 AM
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/4/2008 8:37 AM (#8414 - in reply to #8412)
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I sometimes think that each one of us is totally God in total disguise.

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sunflower
Posted 8/4/2008 9:11 AM (#8423 - in reply to #7748)
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kidda,maybe the hummingbird was the soul of your friend father,to let her know all is well,and not a physological symtom of grief,i.e.her mind consloing herself.Anyway,we all have our own thoughts and beleifs,mine being as stated at beginning.You seem,respectfully,to know a lot about birds,and their spirtual meaning,if i read you right.I was wondering,therefore,what the robin stands for,in spiritual terms,and i also have a grey collared dove visiting my home.Also this morning,for the second time,a magpie came,my son had just phoned in tears,along with a jackdaw,any ideas,spiritual,or symbolical.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/4/2008 9:22 AM (#8425 - in reply to #8423)
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The humming-bird and condor are both etched in the sand and stones of the great Nazca lines in the Nazca desert of Peru - so big are the shapes that they can only been seen from the air, and are more than a thousand years old, but noone knows their meaning or origin ....

.... magpies are members of the crow family and can be auguries of upsetting emotions ... I am sorry to hear your son's tears & I hope matters are not too serious and resolvable.

Crows also though are sacred to native American peoples, i believe, as having some close affinity with the spirit world. But for more details I would have to check my sources.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/4/2008 9:36 AM (#8427 - in reply to #7748)
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I had wondered about posting this before ... it was written after Macchu Picchu, and after my father died, when, rounding a corner in Macchu Picchu, we suddenly came upon a wonderful North American Kestrel perched there, that the bird watchers in our group said was most unusual - such a long way from home - my dad always loved Kestrels ...




NORTH AMERICAN KESTREL ON MACHU PICCHU

Do you come here often –
Strange harbinger of my father –
In this secret Inca citadel?

Up and down the majestic terraces
You brought us to a standstill
Lofty vagabond of the continents.

Losing you in the cloud jungle
I chased down the shadows, past Her tiny grave
And found unbeknownst, the Condor’s Temple

There, creeping underground
I felt traces of Your darkness
By the grace of Your peace.



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sunflower
Posted 8/4/2008 9:42 AM (#8428 - in reply to #8425)
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thnks for that,i find it all facinating,and do beleive they bring messages,i have also written on another post about the rainbow,at the same time of said occurence.
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sunflower
Posted 8/4/2008 9:45 AM (#8430 - in reply to #8428)
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i,mwriting to myself again!not inntentional,but the rainbow is under gods proof.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/4/2008 9:48 AM (#8433 - in reply to #8430)
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thanks saw it too - but there is a link isn't there 'cos in Genesis, when the dove returned from land with was it an olive branch (symbol now of peace!) in its beak, the rainbow had been placed there by God as his reminder to himself (herself) that next time the rains came, he/she would stop them in time so as not to permit the next deluge

Edited by Paul Joseph 8/4/2008 9:49 AM
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sunflower
Posted 8/4/2008 10:08 AM (#8441 - in reply to #8433)
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this is interesting,being under the current circimstanes of misunderstandings,and folly,that we are all reminded,in the divine way,that love and peace is his/her wish for all,for this i have total respect,lessons for all,balance in all things,resulting in harmomy.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/4/2008 10:13 AM (#8442 - in reply to #8441)
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The foolishness of God exceeds the wisdom of men.
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