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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/30/2008 4:44 AM (#7984 - in reply to #7954)
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Remember we had the 'Turn turn' discussion before .. just 'cos i am old fogey and culture carrier I always have this urge just to remind us of its basing itself on Ecclesiastes .... ok ... why do I have to do that, you may ask, boring old me....

... well ... i think I do it for any number of reasons ... some are ..

- to ensure that nothing is lost of our and other cultures traditions ...

- to ensure proper linkages of ideas and acknoweldgement of others' ideas

- to evoke ideas as to how linkages develop and continue chains of spirit, as in such themes as has been called, The Perennial Philosophy

- 'cos I think it is just plain interesting how ideas do form, develop, might be forgotten, then resurface ...

an example of the last one is how psychoanalysis based itself on hypnotism, overtly, but then, in Jung's development, turned right back to ancient teachings of alchemy, yoga, Taoism, and the Christian confessional ... and now we understand even more, with othere researchers (eg, Eliade), who made links to depth psychology and shamanic practices ... which predate most if not all of our known religions, and perhaps even speech (hence the cave paintings in Lacieux, etc ..)

.. better stop there .. sorry to go on ..

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MollyB
Posted 7/30/2008 1:06 PM (#8028 - in reply to #7718)
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My, my, my...I don't know what to comment on first....here's a list...

-I think Richard Harris is Irish if memory serves
-'MacArthur Park'...another synchronistic song for me (long story, lol)

"There will be another song for me
For I will sing it
There will be another dream for me
Someone will bring it
I will drink the wine while it is warm
and never let you catch me looking at the sun
And after all the loves of my life
after all the loves of my life
You'll still be the one."

-The Tea Party took their name from the "get-togethers" (called "Tea Parties") of Ginsberg, Kerouac and Burroughs. The authors would smoke hash, create, read poetry and touch heaven I am sure. Sounds like my kind of party...

-No, I haven't read the sequel (or I guess, pre-quel from Merlin's standpoint) to the 'Once and Future King' but it will definitely go on my 'to read list'.

Hmmmm...think that's it...

Oh! Jill, you might try listening to "Fire in the Head" by TTP. Which was actually written in Glastonbury if I remember right....

And, hey, that brings us back to Arthur and his legend. I just love it when it all comes together...

MollyB
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MollyB
Posted 7/30/2008 1:07 PM (#8029 - in reply to #7718)
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Fire in the Head - The Tea Party

you stay
silent, knowing, always in time
see how this love stays divine
see how this love stays divine


sleep here
hoping, knowing, always in time
see how the love stays divine
see how the love stays divine
this is the way step inside


and i'm waiting
when I return to her I find
and i'm waiting
flowers of evil in my mind
and i'm waiting
dancing with fire on the edge
and i'm waiting
remembering all of what she said
and i'm waiting
hoping the rains will wash away
and i'm waiting
hoping a guide will show the way
and i'm waiting
dancing with fire on the edge
and i'm waiting
remembering all of what she said
with this fire in the head

you stay
silent, knowing, always in time
see how this love stays divine
see how this love stays divine
this is the way step inside


sleep here
hoping, knowing, always in time
see how the love stays divine
see how the love stays divine
this is the way step inside
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/30/2008 1:32 PM (#8030 - in reply to #7718)
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Evocative words of that song ... what might evil flowers be, I wonder ?

The Book of Merlyn was not so much a sequel, more, an afterthought

It is nice to share Arthurian resonances ....

now then, a confidence (on such a public board too . braking my own rule - always dangerous)

.... in a past life journey, many years before UMS, I went back to his last battle and I appeared to be carrying him on my back to a place of safety ...

.... and you did not come back to my poems, ah me ... and also, more than all of this ( that is a great song, though very hard to find: "More than this, I give you ... " ? the next lines always escape me ) ....

............. I still think on those paintings of yours !

I thought dear old Richard Harris was Welsh; maybe i am wrong; confusing him with Richard Burton maybe.

ah me, Googled him, yes you are absolutely right: Irish. Learn something every day ! (my only excuse is that in one of his early films, This Sporting Life, was it? I hazily recall he played a Welsh Rugby player ... but I wouldn't go to the wall on that one either !)

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MollyB
Posted 7/30/2008 2:09 PM (#8031 - in reply to #8030)
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Hi Paul!

Yes, I did forget the poems! I'm sorry! I would love to read if you want to share!

Interesting Arthurian memory....do you know your name? Have you ever read 'The Secret Tradition in Arthurian Legend' by...someone, lol...I'll have to check?

"The Flowers of Evil" (Les Fleurs du Mal) is a book of poetry by Baudelaire. Darkly beautiful.

I've never seen 'This Sporting Life' but RH was wonderful in 'To Walk with the Lions' although it's one of the saddest movies I've ever seen. Animal movies always make me cry...
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MollyB
Posted 7/31/2008 12:27 AM (#8057 - in reply to #7718)
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For the former Duranies here on the board (ok...I'm still a Duranie...what can I say? I like lyrical symbolism).....


The Seventh Stranger - Duran Duran

Those words are all remainders
Echos growing in the heart of twilight
They lay back laughing at naivetys star.
Awaken all those whispers,
The dusty shadow of a passing favour
I wouldnt say that you were ruthless or right
I couldnt see from so far.
Was I chasing after rainbows?
One thing's for sure - you never answered when I called.
And I wiped away the water from my face
To look through the eyes of a stranger...

For rumours in the wake of such a lonely crowd
Trading in my shelter for danger
Im changing my name just as the sun goes down -
In the eyes of the stranger

Cant tell the real from reflection
When all these faces look the same to me
In every city such a desolate dream.
Some days are strange to number
Some say the seventh sounds a little bit stranger
A year of sundays seems to have drifted right by -
I could have sworn in one evening.
And Im not seized in desperation,
No steel reproaches on the table from before.
But I still can feel those splinters of ice
I look through the eyes of a stranger...

I must be chasing after rainbows
One thing's for sure you never answer when I call.
And I wipe away the water from my face
To look through the eyes of a stranger...

For rumours in the wake of such a lonely crowd
Trading in my shelter for danger
Im changing my name just as the sun goes down
Walking away like a stranger
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/31/2008 4:40 AM (#8071 - in reply to #8031)
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Thanks - didn't catch my name then - the battle was quite bloody ... don't know the book, sounds interesting ... there is also one abuot the Cathars, as if a whole community was reincarnated then began to come together through shared reflections...

.. the poems are in typescript so it will take me some time, but will work on it ...

R H was also good in the film, Robin and Marian, playing Richard I against Sean Connery's Robin, Audrey Hepburn's Marian and Robert Shaw's Sheriff of Notingham ... moving & funny film abuot time catching up with ageing warriors ...
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/31/2008 6:18 AM (#8086 - in reply to #8031)
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Dear MollyB ...we were talking about Arthurian poems ... here is one of my shorter ones ... written such a long time ago now, strange looking at them again.. hope they make some sense !:

from ARTHURIAN POEMS

AFTER BATTLE

Wind; and there’s magic in the air
D’you feel the ripple of the earth ?
The tide wave turns, the birds
Fly south – and the homegoing soul
Softly burns.

Water; and there’s magic in the stream.
D’you feel the flame softly glow ?
The antelope flee, the lioness
Prowls –
And the new baby cries
All alone.

Earth; and there’s magic in the grass-
D’you feel the spirit lightly pass?
Over your mind, under
Your feet –
And the women weep
For the dawn

Light; and there’s a hero in the chill
D’you feel the beat of your heart?
The valiant have come, the enemy
Is dead, make no mistake
This is so
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Supernatural3
Posted 7/31/2008 1:44 PM (#8114 - in reply to #7718)
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These songs, dedicated to my dad: He was a Bob Seger fan, so that is HIS song.

Bob Seger's "Turn the page" click to listen

On a long and lonesome highway
East of Omaha
You can listen to the engine
Moanin' out his one note song
You can think about the woman
Or the girl you knew the night before
But your thoughts will soon be wandering
The way they always do
When you're ridin' sixteen hours
And there's nothin' much to do
And you don't feel much like ridin',
You just wish the trip was through

Here I am
On the road again
There I am
Up on the stage
Here I go
Playin' star again
There I go
Turn the page

Well you walk into a restaurant,
Strung out from the road
And you feel the eyes upon you
As you're shakin' off the cold
You pretend it doesn't bother you
But you just want to explode

Most times you can't hear 'em talk,
Other times you can
All the same old cliches,
"Is that a woman or a man?"
And you always seem outnumbered,
You don't dare make a stand

Here I am
On the road again
There I am
Up on the stage
Here I go
Playin' star again
There I go
Turn the page

Out there in the spotlight
You're a million miles away
Every ounce of energy
You try to give away
As the sweat pours out your body
Like the music that you play

Later in the evening
As you lie awake in bed
With the echoes from the amplifiers
Ringin' in your head
You smoke the day's last cigarette,
Rememberin' what she said

Here I am
On the road again
There I am
Up on the stage
Here I go
Playin' star again
There I go
Turn the page
Here I am
On the road again
There I am
Up on the stage
Here I go
Playin' star again
There I go
Turn the page
There I go
There I go

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My song of sadness: click to listen
The video doesn't go with the lyrics, in relation to my own life. Don't watch the vid... just listen, while reading the lyrics..... Makes me cry, massively.

Melissa Etheridge's "I will never be the same"

So you walked with me for a while
Bared your naked soul
And you told me of your plan
How you would never let them know
In the morning of the night
You cried a long lost child
And I tried on I tried to hold you
But you were young
And you were wild
[CHORUS]
But I, I will never be the same
Oh I, I will never be the same
Caught in your eyes
Lost in your name
I will never be the same
Secrets of your life
I never wanted for myself
But you guarded them like a lie
Placed up on the highest shelf
In the morning of the night
When I woke to find you gone
I knew your distant devil
Must be draggin' you along
[CHORUS]
And you swore that you were bound for glory
And for wanting you had no shame
But I loved you
And then I lost you
And I will never be the same
[CHORUS]
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One last song.... for all deaths and lost loved ones, but especially his sister, My Aunt Jan.
 
The Hollies - "He aint heavy, he's my brother"

Click to listen

The road is long
With many a winding turn
That leads us to who knows where
Who knows where
But I'm strong
Strong enough to carry him
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

So on we go

His welfare is of my concern
No burden is he to bear
We'll get there

For I know
He would not encumber me
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

If I'm laden at all
I'm laden with sadness
That everyone's heart
Isn't filled with the gladness
Of love for one another

It's a long, long road
From which there is no return
While we're on the way to there
Why not share

And the load
Doesn't weigh me down at all
He ain't heavy he's my brother

He's my brother
He ain't heavy, he's my brother
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/4/2008 6:55 AM (#8403 - in reply to #7718)
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Dear Jill

Lovely melancholy memories; than you for sharing them ... my father died in 2005, and on one of my visits to my check in on my mother over the past weekend, her car got broken into and trashed by car vandals in the night, and she is so very attached to that car as she ferried him around cos' he, though in his time, a full-time driver, was no longer able to drive ... don;t know why i am telling you this, except to empathise and resonate, thuogh too that grief is a door once open, to perpetually repeat in different ways;

I put the poems up on the Di Y thread eons ago, but in case they were not seen then, here they are offered again may they resonate with your loss, as each loss might help us move that little bit beyond into the Eternity that is Now.




POEMS OF MISSING

1.

The world is unfurled to us
Through our goodbyes

Each farewell an eternity
Of a death already here

Our only unique certainty
Sunrise begets sunset

2.

If time could stand still
If we could go back

If the rainbow were black
If the hill wore a veil

If gaol was release
If the fire did not burn

If the tide did not turn
If please, you had not died

3.

I never told you that I loved you
I never told you that I cared

I never thought how I loved you
I never thought I cared

I barely touched or held you
I barely talked to you at all

I never knew the depth of longing
I would feel when you had gone

I never knew I’d cry for you
I never knew you would die

I did not know how I’d miss you
I barely knew you at all
4.

One day we may
Be ghosts, were we ever

Lucky and others
Not. Now birth, then

Memory of tomorrow
Yesterday and never

5.

One day we may be angels:
Fantastic futures for tales that were,

But will not be again. Only what can
Be drawn now, in the hearts

And minds of others
Might outlast a die already cast
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MollyB
Posted 8/9/2008 12:06 AM (#8883 - in reply to #7718)
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Lovely, lovely poems, Paul. They certainly resonate here in the heart. Thank you for sharing.

Bob Segar! I saw him live back in 1986 and he puts on an awesome show!

"I woke last night to the sound of thunder
How far off I sat and wondered
Starting humming a song from 1962
Ain't it funny how the night moves
When you just don't seem to have as much to lose
Strange how the night moves
With autumn closing in..."

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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/9/2008 4:11 AM (#8893 - in reply to #8883)
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Namaste MollyB and All
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Posted 8/11/2008 1:56 AM (#8948 - in reply to #7718)
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beautiful words indeed...

Thank you!

HUGS
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Rose
Posted 8/15/2008 3:51 AM (#9210 - in reply to #8403)
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Funny how we become fondly attached to things that we have associations with...when it comes to loved ones we've lost.

I fully understand about the attachment to the car.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/15/2008 3:52 AM (#9211 - in reply to #9210)
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Cars can do that, yes !
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Paul Joseph
Posted 11/1/2008 1:01 PM (#11927 - in reply to #9210)
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ahh Vance ... i think this is the one I was thinking of ... and wondering too where might Rose be ... missing you Felicia and hoping you are well !
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/24/2009 10:14 AM (#16141 - in reply to #7718)
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This is another old music thread

... I am trying to find Marty's 'Stochastic Music' but it seems to have been eaten by moths
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mruppert
Posted 7/25/2009 10:54 PM (#16159 - in reply to #7718)
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"Stochastic" never really produced what we could have achieved.....an open form of world music....though it did have it's moments.

Marty and Catsters 
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/26/2009 10:18 AM (#16167 - in reply to #16159)
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Aha - now then - are Catsters anything like Cathars ?
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Posted 7/26/2009 8:03 PM (#16170 - in reply to #7718)
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Daydream http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDDB0cRZ7NU
- Lovin' Spoonful
What a day for a daydream
What a day for a daydreamin' boy
And I'm lost in a daydream
Dreamin' 'bout my bundle of joy
And even if time ain't really on my side
It's one of those days for taking a walk outside
I'm blowing the day to take a walk in the sun
And fall on my face on somebody's new-mown lawn
I've been having a sweet dream
I been dreaming since I woke up today
It's starring me and my sweet thing
'Cause she's the one makes me feel this way
And even if time is passing me by a lot
I couldn't care less about the dues you say I got
Tomorrow I'll pay the dues for dropping my load
A pie in the face for being a sleep'n bull doag
{Whistle}
And you can be sure that if you're feeling right
A daydream will last long into the night
Tomorrow at breakfast you may pick up your ears
Or you may be daydreaming for a thousand years
What a day for a daydream
Custom made for a daydreaming boy
And I'm lost in a daydream
Dreaming 'bout my bundle of joy
{Whistle

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