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|I have recently been experimenting with the ability of vegan raw food to enhance prana and the awakening of Kundalini. So far i've found Gabriel Cousens book spiritual nutirtion to be a tremendous aid in this process. Has anyone else experimented with the ability of nutrition to enhance spirituality, in particular with raw food. Thanks for your comments.|
|Wow. It's so neat to hear someone talking about the connection between food and spirituality! I have found that the type of food I eat really effects how inspired I am for spiritual practices. I completed a cleanse that involved vegan raw food called Arise & Shine and had some of the clearest spiritual experiences of my life. During the parts of this cleanse I felt extremely inspired about life and truly felt my body to be a temple of the Divine. On the other side of nutrition, I spent some time eating pretty poorly and felt myself drawn toward watching tv in a lethargic state. I believe nutrition plays a bigger role in peoples' lives than many realize. There is a course on nutrition and spirituality with UMS that will be wonderful to read and integrate. I'd love to hear others' thoughts on this subject....|
|I too have found that my eating more raw veggies, fruit, raw nuts and lots of water increases my passion for spirit and feeling connected to spirit as well. I have had challenging times and I am making a difference in my eating, even to eat slow and enjoy my bites, to bring me to a new level with spirituality and nutrition. Organic I feel is very important and even down to our chemicals we use in our home. It is nice to hear of other talk of spirituality and nutrition and I also look forward to the class that UMS teaches for this subject matter.|
|I have to say that it is great to eat a lot of raw food and veggies and such, but gosh! those old habits die hard! I have been dying for french fries for the past few days! I only have two more days to go before I can have them. I'm counting the minutes! I found that I have to set aside one day per week where I have a little bit of my old temptations, like chocolate cake or some other decadence. Otherwise I will simply go insane. I don't know, maybe I would just get too enlightened, or too light, or something, but somehow that junk food brings me so much comfort, even if it is just a tiny bit once a week. I'll go all week eating raw veggies and fruit, eating a totally alkaline diet, and it has helped me greatly, but there is a little me in there going, "Just wait until Sunday, that's the day, you'll get some chocolate junk food then!" Knowing that I have one day per week that I can break the rules makes it possible to get through the week! I discovered that not being able to partake in my old ways at least once a week made me really depressed, and I usually failed by the second week of eating like a saint anyway, so I guess I have to make room for the human who was brought up on twinkies, ice-cream, and the average american diet. |
Will I ever be free of earth junk food? I don't know. However, I have gained much in my health, lost weight and have a lot of energy to get things done that I didn't have when I ate that way every day. I do aspire to be able to eat like a saint someday though, without needing even that one day of old ways in the food department! For now, I need something really bad for me just once in a while!
|I know how you feel dancing daisy, it has been quite the process for me as well, letting go of those old cravings. However, the process that has worked well for me has been to figure out how to make my favorite junk food with yummy raw ingredients instead. For instance to satisfy a chocolate craving I mix raw chocolate (cacao) with agave syrup, coconut oil, and dates. It turns into the most fantastic chocolate fudge, even better than any other processed (cooked) chocolate! Also, when I crave ice cream, which used to be my favorite dessert, I put frozen fruit through my champion juicer, which turns it into ice "cream" right before my eyes. My favorite is banana raspberry. Sometimes I run cacao through as well for chocolate ice "cream". It is amazing to me that my new raw creations are even better tasting than the cooked variety! Junk food has truely turned into health food that tastes soooo gooood. Hope these ideas help. If anyone else wants recipe ideas i know a bunch, please feel free to ask.|
|I have been really interested in raw foods, but like dancing daisy just can't really make the crossover completely cause I love my ice cream and treats and such, and of course PIZZA! It sounds like you know a lot about all this, so do you have any recipes for raw food pizza???? Do you have any books you could reccommend for finding raw food recipes? I wish there was a service where I could just have someone deliver raw food dishes to my door! I would pay anything! I understand Madonna has someone who spends all day just making her nutritious food, and setting it down in front of her... I must admit, I'm kinda lazy about preparing food and don't like to take the time out for it. Does it take a long time to prepare the raw food dishes, just like cooking prepared meals?|
|Hello Ariana, |
Thanks for the response. I definately have found that it is vitally important to make the transistion to raw food at a mild pace. Switching over to quickly has never worked for me. Slowly brining in raw foods and letting them work there magic has been what has allowed me to go fully raw. Indeed I do know recipes for raw food pizza, however I don't know the exact ratio of ingredients. However, there are several books I would recommend such as Rainbow Green Live-Food Cuisine by Gabriel Cousens, and Sunfood Cuisine by Frederic Patenaude, these have raw vegan pizza recipes. The basic process is to make a crust of nuts, seeds, spices, and maybe some veggies. Then blend a marinara sauce with tomatoes and spices, and then to make vegan cheese. There are several processes of how to do this in these books. My favorite is pine nuts, raw miso, and spices blened. It comes out like a yummy creamy cheese. I can honestly say that the raw vegan organic pizza i've had tastes better than standard pizza, and of course it is healthful!
In terms of delivery there is definately a posssibilty of getting raw food delivered to you. I know of several people that do raw food catering services near the area I live. I would check into this through the internet, or yellow pages. Also keep an eye out for raw food restaurants they seem to be popping up rapidly.
Preparing raw food can be simple or elaborate depending on your desire. For me, most of the raw meals I make are a lot quicker than the cooked foods I used to make. For instance my morning smoothie of fruit and superfoods such as raw chocolate (cacao), maca, bluegreen algae, etc. takes about three minutes or less to make. Also I make raw soups in a food processor which take about 3-5 minutes as well. Honestly overall I spend less time preparing raw food than when I prepared cooked food.
Hope all this helps! Many blessings on your journey.
|That guy Juliano who wrote the book Raw Cookbook, I think that's the name of it, he started one of the first raw food restaurants. It's now in LA because all the movie stars wanted him to move down there, but he started in San Fran. He refuses to open a franchise or chain though because he feels like he can't control the quality of the food if there are a bunch of restaurants and he can't be at them all. That's commendable. I sure do wish someone would start a chain or a franchise though so they could pop up all over the place. Perhaps it's better that way though, keep it small, mom and pop restaurants are going to deliver a better product every time. Raw food has certainly gotten a lot more interesting in the past few years, eh?|
|Hi. I have a question for you all. I've been eating raw foods off and on for the past year. I've been loving it! However, recently I've been showing signs of having a parasite. I've also had several disturbing dreams in which I was either feeding the parasite or removing it from my body. I'm concerned that this parasite may be really affecting the vibration of my body. So I've been doing some research into how to get rid of parasites and have come up with lots of cleansing "kits". It's so hard to know what will actually work, though. I'd love to be able to treat the parasite by using raw food and/or vibrational healing. Does anyone have any ideas? I would greatly appreciate it!|
Edited by lolayoga 1/28/2006 8:30 PM
Location: Hirosaki, Japan
|These are just some food cures i know of, for tapeworms, eat coconut meat first thing in the morning on an empty stomache, for round worms take lotus rhizome powder. this is all i could find wth my resources.|
|Thank you for that information! I also recently came accross the book "Twelve Steps to Raw Food" by Victoria Botenko, in which she says that by eating 100% raw food parasites and worms will not be able to survive in one's body. This was exciting news for me. I like the idea of using foods to cure this instead of using a parasite program. Thanks again for the information!|
|The power of raw food is truely amazing. I definately believe that you will be able to rid yourself of any parasites through raw food lolayoga. Eating food as the earth has presented it for us seems so simple, yet in modern times where we seem to be so out of balance and unhealthy, it has the power to heal almost any dis-ease. People have done studies on wild animals to see if they get any of the sicknesses or degenerative diseases that humans get and they don't seem to get any of them. The animals that do get similar sicknesses to humans however are the ones we take from their natural environment and then feed cooked food. Our natural state is to be healthy just like all other animals (that eat raw food). Blessings on your healing journey lolayoga!|
|Hello. I have some experience with this. I am a certified polarity therapist and during my schooling, we were taught many ways to raise our vibration in order to bring in the highest light for healing. One way, and a very important way, was through nutrition. We started with a cleanse and worked with "alive" food. Chloryphyl was an important part of the diet as well as it brings oxygen into the cells. The results were amazing. We were able to reach deeper levels of meditation, and able to access and hold higher light vibrations which aided in our polarity work. The body has its own wisdom and when this temple is fed properly, the cells in your body become more alive and you are able to attain greater levels of health, joy and overall well being. |
Sometimes people can do this for a lifetime, but sometimes not. Remember that everything happens in stages and you may need to re-adjust your diet due to different things going on in your life. There are a few books out there regarding vibrational medicine, intuitive eating, etc. And it's important to recognize that your body will tell you what it needs, even if its something that you may think is bad. Everything in moderation!
|I've been slowly making my way toward veganism, but it's extremely difficult b/c it's just so expensive (hmmm, i wonder why. lol). I take MSG Detox before a meal that contains MSG and that has helped tremendously. My tremors stopped, my random migraines stopped (but i realized that they weren't random, but a result of my MSG consumption. i'm VERY sensitive to the horrible stuff), and my blurred vision after meals stopped. |
I no longer eat red meats (beef, pork, etc), I still eat fish b/c I don't want to harm my body by giving it a shock. I no longer consume milk (www.notmilk.com) and I'm eating alot more fruit/veggies. I must say that it's truly making a difference on my body. I really don't think we're meant to eat the stuff anyway. Besides, with my motto that I created for myself (Think BIG, think BAD) it's helped me realize WHAT is actually bad for us. The dairy industry is a multi-BILLION dollar industry and I now know why. The Elite Inc. are literally wanting to eliminate us, but they're clever. They harm us with things that are cumulative, not immediate. That way we think it's "just genetic flaws". I do not believe that obesity is 'genetic'. People are obese b/c not everyone is as sensitive to the harmful things in processed foods. Those who are "obese" just don't know it yet.
I no longer eat t.v. dinners, processed foods, fast food, etc. I'm meditating more and now I'm doing yoga regularly. All of these things have helped my body tremendously.
Anyway, that's my opinion on food and what I'm doing with it.
Also, I still want to pursue a degree through this establishment, but I don't know how long it will be before I can. Money is such a horrible thing. Especially in this day in age.
Love to you all!
ps. any of you who would like to speak outside of this forum (i don't really get on here often) add me at the following links:
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|I think that eating raw foods can bring us close to source energys. The movement of food energys to humanity is quite valuable. I think that, if eating healthfuly, processed food, especialy when processed personaly and with care, may be a positive influence as well. Not everybody needs, in my opinion, or can be close to source. I am interested in how food efects our thoughts and emotions. I find that plain food makes me thoughtful, while indulging in a treat makes me feel self-inolved. Spice adds a vibrancy that seems, to me, to be that of people and the earth together and is almost unidirectional in nature. I would like to learn more about and desire to be, pure inside and out. Eat healthfuly!|
|After a lifetime ( I am over 50) of eating any and every possible kind of junk food I went on a fast in June of this year. The first thing that I realized was that my body's wisdom and thrust towards health is far stronger than my cravings for salt, sugar, and grease. This kind of confidence has helped me to be more sensitive to what my body needs and doesn't need. I used to go for days withour drinking water and the fast brought more water into my body. That was really hard and I fussed and complained for a few days about having to go to the bathroom and being too full to eat anything anyway, but it passed. After seven months I am eating more than 75 % raw. Recently I have used Zeolite as a detoxification for heavy metals. I have found that my mind is clearer. I am able to make decisions quicker and focus better. My emotional states no longer fluctuate, there is more of a sense of calmness and equilibrium. My prayer/lightwork/meditations are far more intense, full of love, embracing those near and far. I have lost a lot of weight (30 pounds!)and will be at an 'ideal' weight after losing 15 more pounds. Of course I am exercising more too. Arthritis symptoms are disappearing, energy level has increased and I feel more 'grounded.' I know that my sense of health and well being comes from a combination of very focused spiritual work,water, diet, intuition. Just wanted to encourage anyone who is older or seemingly 'set in your ways' that having experienced miraculous changes in my life, I know that the divine power in you is able to effect change for your highest good as well. Peace!|
|About a year ago I discovered that I was Gluten sensitive and after cutting out Gluten from my diet, my allergies disappeared. About 20 years ago I discovered Robert Gray's cleansing program which I do every few years. It involves skin brushing to circulate lymph and herbs such as chickweed and rosemary that remove the mucus plaque buildup from the tennis court size surface area of the intestinal track. It also clears worms. I gall bladder cleanse once a year around Christmas when everyone else feasts, i fast. My diet is balanced meat and potatoes with more cooked veggies than raw, a diet my children grow well with because it presents a great variety of choices they enjoy. This fosters good moods which enhances a happy sense of spirituality. I rarely ever drink, I love chocolate. |
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida
|Paddy, Heres a little information that I have taken from Adrian Cooper, "Our Ultimate Reality". I was wondering how you might think about this particular aspect of diet. After giving this considerable thought, we began a more liberal form of vegaterain diet, we've decided not to eat anything with legs. We thought about fish but then considered that Jesus fed the multitudes with fish and bread, so I'm thinking fish is ok.. Based on the folowing is what led us to a more vegaterian thought process. I respect your obvious knowledge on many aspects of metaphysics, so that said, what do you think? |
"The conditions under which animals have been bred and reared can have a profound effect on the human Energy, Astral and Spiritual bodies.
Animals bred for food very often experience "lives" of extremely negative emotions and therefore energies such as "fear", all of which manifest a powerful vibration in the form of Energy.
Energy manifesting in the form of these powerful negative vibrations such as fear cannot be destroyed, and therefore become associated and will adversely influence all who come into contact with them, for example during the consumption of the animals that have experienced these powerful vibrations of fear and other such emotions on a level that most humans will never have to experience.
As humans we are expected to use our God-given intelligence, freewill and inner-connections to do the right thing or accept the consequences through Cause and Effect.
By now many of you you might be saying "well how do you know that eating animals is not the right thing?". We will address some of those issues next.
2. Biological, Health and Ecological
I have studied the medical, biological and paleoanthropological evidence relating to human diet, and these are just a few of my main findings:
a. Human teeth are designed for grinding and chewing in exactly the same manner as a herbivorous animal.
b. Humans have no teeth that are characteristic of carnivorous animals as used for tearing flesh.
c. The human jaw moves from side to side to facilitate grinding.
d. The human hand has no claws or thumb designed for handling meat. Our hands and fingers are rather designed for harvesting vegetables, fruits, nuts etc..
e. The strength of hydrochloric acid in the human stomach, the acid used to break down food into a digestible form, is only 5% of the strength of hydrochloric acid found in carnivorous animals. This is because vegetation is much easier to "break down" than meat.
f. The alimentary canal, which is the entire digestive canal of a human is many times longer in comparison to body size than the alimentary canal of a carnivore. This is so a meat eating animal can eliminate putrefying meat as as soon as possible, a requirement that does not apply to vegetation. This is one major reason why cancer of the colon is rapidly increasing in human beings, as well as other related digestive tract dis-eases.
g. Humans are unable to deal with excess fat in the same way that carnivorous animals are. This is a major reason why, due to eating meat, humans are increasingly paying the price in the form of obesity, heart dis-eases such as hardening and obstruction of the arteries, and related dis-eases such as diabetes. These are all increasing as parents feed children more and more harmful food. It should also be noted that a child produces most far cells in the body at a young age, and once produced these fat cells will always exist and have the ability to manifest as fat. So once a child has been "fattened" by parents, they will be fighting against obesity and fat related dis-eases all their physical life. An obese child will always become an obese adult.
h. Vegetarian and vegans have considerably more endurance and stamina. It has been medically proven that that, on average, a vegetarian or vegan has 2 to 3 times more endurance during physical exercise than a comparable meat eater, and will recover from that exercise up to 5 times faster than the comparable animal eater.
i. Vegans and some vegetarians depending on diet live on average 5 to 7 years longer than meat eaters.
j. The proteins originating in vegetables, fruits and nuts are in a far more readily available and digestible form than than "meat protein". This is why the worlds largest mammals such as Elephants, Rhinoceros, Giraffe and many others can grow so large.
k. The amino acids required by the human body to physically repair itself, under "instruction" from the Energy body are found in vegetation, fruits, nuts etc..
l. When we consume a vegetarian or vegan diet we also consume an idea balance of other crucial substances such as carbohydrates, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, chlorophyll and numerous others.
n. Meat contains many dangerous or potentially dangerous chemical substances such as: carcinogenic, that is cancer producing growth hormones, DDT, preservatives, tranquilizers, hormones and other drugs fed to animals, arsenic, sodium sulphate and numerous other chemical compound used in livestock farming, all of which are consumed with meat.
So these are just a few of the many biological and health factors relating to the eating of animal flesh and body parts.
There are also many related environmental and health factors relating to the so called "meat industry".
For example, the "run-off" from thousands of "slaughter-houses", and extremely evocative phrase, is a major pollutant of rivers, streams and lakes; thereby causing further suffering, death and destruction.
Rain forests are being levelled at an unsustainable rate to provide land for cattle, and also to grow Soy beans to feed cattle, thus further damaging the environment.
20% of all methane, a major contributor to climate change, is produced by cattle.
here are just a few famous, intelligent and highly respected people who were vegetarian and vegan. Note that most if not all of these people understand the "inner realities" and true nature of the Universe:
Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato, Leonardo Da Vinci, Albert Einstein and Mahatma Gandhi as well as numerous others."
What do you think?
|you make me want to become a vegitarian again leo. |
strange thing about meat, the more you eat it the more you want. . .
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida
|Cause, I first read about the effect of raising cattle and the way they build up fear in our course on spiritual eating. That course is in the masters portion. Don't know where you are in your studies. Anyway that same fear being transfered to the person eating the meat. I now have a hard time walking past the meat counter, makes me a little nausious. With all of the new vegie products on the market, makes it a little easier. |
|One thing that comes to mind is the nature of labeling as a double edge blade, on one side offering utility of education and on the other acting as a basis for conflict. Everyone seems to some degree vegetarian, some just more hard liner than others. |
After reading John Robbin's Diet for a New America, my diet became Vegetarian dominant in a big way.
I wasn't sophisticated enough. After a few years I wasn't doing well, and so I studied Michael Tierra's Way of Herbs and recovered.
As I reintroduced meat in my diet by that guidance than sometimes my blood would boil as i assimilated the fear hormones in the meat. A slaughterhouse designer, Temple Grandin created a more humane way that seems to trigger lesser degrees of fear in the cows.
At some point I considered reincarnation as a means of perfect justice together with the idea of transmigration of soul to other life forms. This helped me cope with the hell many farm animals experience.
I understand that as human predecessors ate meat, their brains grew larger and they were able to spend time in other ways than obsessing about food. So I ponder what food eaten now might enhance life experience for descendants to come. Coconut oil, Spirulina, and Resveratrol come to mind.
Location: United Kingdom
|One of the UMS courses covers this are in depth. |
Is there evidence for those venerable vegetarians cited above?
The poison in, posion out arguments make a lot of sense to me, as do the economic/ecological ones. Though also I believe there are examples of Yogis, Fakirs (and as demonstrated by Rasputin when they attempted to murder him) that, the body can withstand the ingestion of considerable toxins if one's intention is pure.
Jesus and the fish is an interesting example; he even dined on this after resurrection
|I don't think Pope Benedict XVI is vegetarian; he seems a successful Metaphysician of sorts. |
Likewise I don't think the Dalai Lama is a vegetarian, but he is quite mindful about what he eats.
Many Rabiis are not vegetarian, but similarly mindful about holding compassion toward animals.
I think vegetarianism is popular in India, birthplace of many religions and spiritual practices.
Apparently there are more English Speaking workers in India than there are people in America,
as if the higher population might complement a vegetarian path for the masses. The abundance
of spices in the cooking may somehow offer nutritional advantage in some way or another over
non spiced vegetarianism.
In the context of the seed post, foods for awakening Kundalini, then the idea of sexual energy comes
to mind, aphrodisiacs that may enhance experiences of sexual energy flow.
My impression is that Gingko Biloba can thin blood in ways improving circulation in both the penis
and the mind. That the Gingko survived the Hiroshima blast, I consider it a sacred "Tree Of Life" of sorts.
Early Kundalini uprisings can be difficult to manage if unprepared, get a guide and please be careful.
I've been there Leo, my sensitivity to meat was in my case hightened to the point that I knew if something accedentily eaten had even the slightest amount of meat in it. I was vegitarian for two years and was healthy throughout. A person needs to know how to eat properly as a vegitarian and this instilled in me the practice of reading every label I considered eating and many I did not consider eating.
I while encountering new spiritual practices later returned to vegitarianism for a larger part of a year and was happy in doing so. After this I encountered Kabbalah and modified my diet again becoming kosher, even if not strictly so. I would say I felt closer to divinity in these years than at many other times in my life but in very different ways. It can really make a person mindful when needing to, or through discipline to think of every thing that goes into your body. i like that.
|Problem with people is they think they know what spirituality means. You can gain more in sight into what really is spirituality by exploring this meaning by via knowledge (internal process). Than some external corporeal event. |
Theres process here i will point out for you. Start from what you know and break it down to its root essence. What you will quickly find is theres a barrier to process and should end up at unanswerable question. That questions is were does desires come from?well they come from up bringing,parents, genetics and society.
If you are still in process you will come down to some desires that just dont fall into to this catogories. These are the unanswerable questions. Now you have your raw material to which to build with. This process will aim you in the right direction. Spirituality has nothing to do with types of food you digest, you think certain types food contain magical properities? this is absolute rubbish. Yes, digestiable foods do contain pyshical(corporeal) properities to heal the corporeal body and make it feel good. This as far they go , they do nothing for your spiritual body.
If you knew what true spirituality was you would run screaming terror. Why do you think Jacob said "this is a terrible place" when he entered kingdom of God. And no its nothing to with majesty and scale of everything he witnessed. I throw this question down to people who think they know what spirituality is.
What was Jacob referring to when he said "this is a terrible place"?
If cant answer this question then you still need to keep searching.
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