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Elizabeth Ann
Posted 7/4/2007 4:47 AM (#2125)
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For many years I have been thinking about the subject of helping others using the gifts and the skills that we have developed, perhaps over many lifetimes. So many people think that healing in whatever form should not be charged for. Indeed many years ago when I was running a very profitable business I also believed this. I was happy to give healing help to all without wanting or needing anything in return. I even returned some cheques that were sent to me one Christmas from people who I had helped during the year I told them I did not need their money.

I recounted this to a very learned healer who has been a bit of a mentor to me. He explained that I should have accepted their gifts and as I had returned them I had stopped the free flow of energy and probably offended these people in the process. Maybe this precipitated my present financial circumstances.

Still I had this internal battle going on within me. I have now spent 15 years actively developing my gifts and skills, spending a great deal of money and time in the process. The Universe has most definitely pushed me into working full-time dedicating myself to helping others to help themselves, and there is nothing else that I would rather do. I so agree with Doc J who is in the same position as me, we are both self-employed, have families to support, mortgages and bills to pay so I wonder why so many expect us to work for free even those who have so much more than either of us. The clients I have been working with of late have also been sent to teach me this lesson.

In Britain MD’s in general practice are now paid £2000 or about $4000 a WEEK, and I believe this fuels some people’s expectation that my services and others like me should also be free, not taking into consideration that we are not on a government salary. Of course this does not stop me from helping those I come across in my everyday life. I have no need to shout out ‘I am a healer come to me’ I just do what I can quietly then continue with my day to day business.

So what do you think? Even over the past couple of days I have again been battling with myself over this. Slowly but surely I realise that I must get over this, with my clients there needs to be an exchange, it does not have to be money, my needs are fairly simple but I do need enough to live on. Above all I have a complete trust and faith in the Universe and realise that I have had to learn some very strong lessons in this lifetime.


Elizabeth
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Frank in Japan
Posted 7/4/2007 9:21 AM (#2126 - in reply to #2125)
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Hello Elizabeth Ann,

I'm currently thinking about how I can 'make a living' by incorporating metaphysical work alongside part time employment, then eventually being self sufficient. I'm currently employed full time, but have already begun transforming my way of living.

The mentor which talked to you about the flow of money/energy mentioned something that I have been working with for some time now. I have a strong feeling that he is giving valuable guidance, and perhaps if you still have the chance, talk more with him about the details.

I believe that as we never really 'own' anything (we temporarily use it while we are in this lifetime - and that even goes for the house we have a mortgage on), all we can do is give our love, ourselves and our things away. The irony is, the more we give, the more that comes back, which means the more we can give an so the cycle continues... Off the top of my head, I don't recall the names of some of the authors who have written books about this concept.

For example, by graciously accepting a gift, or even charging a fee, you are able to look after yourself and your family, which allows you to continue and even expand on your contributions to the world. It may even potentially give you power and resources to help those in the greatest need free of charge, who previously you couldn't reach for whatever reason.

If you can organize non-monetary exchanges, that's a great one too! I do that at the moment with a student I teach English to. I didn't want to accept money, as I simply didn't want the added pressure/expectations/appointment to my weekly schedule, but I enjoy teaching the student. So, now, she brings beautiful cakes, and I make the fresh coffee! It's a very comfortable arrangement and a very different experience which I enjoy. BUT, I couldn't do this for all of my students.

Perhaps a happy medium with all this, that could allow for the bills, mortgage and family, is to use your discretion in individual cases. Maybe, a rough guide of fees, and then as you get to know a client, intuitively finding a fee or exchange that will allow you go on and help more people. Perhaps even providing literature in the case of fee paying clients, so that both parties are 'on the same page' about what you can offer, briefly describing your experience etc. I know 'self promotion' is a term that used to make me cringe and choke, but perhaps an informal version thereof could be helpful in also enlightening your clients about your not-for-big-profits kind of approach to your work. ie: highlighting to your clients about your loving approach to your work.

I hope some of those ideas might help. I think I can understand the mixed feelings about reaching a decision on these things. The Universe has provided for you and I in the past, and I too have trust and faith that it will continue to do so.

Blessings and peace,

Frank


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Elizabeth Ann
Posted 7/4/2007 12:19 PM (#2130 - in reply to #2126)
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Hi Frank

Thank you so much for your thoughts on this subject. One of the things that I have always believed is that there are some who are sent to me for help directly by the Universe. When I do what I can for them money plays no part as I know the Universe will provide. I feel that these people are not 'clients' and it is my absolute duty to help.

I do provide my clients with a mass of literature most of which I like to send via email but I often give an appropriate booklet on various subjects from the seventeen that I have written.

Two weeks ago one of my sons and I were chatting in the front room while he waited for his mate to arrive, my three greyhounds were snoozing in the same room, it was 9.45am on a Saturday morning. To cut a long story short we did not realise that a couple of thieves came through the open back door, emptied my sons wallet, went into my office/dining room just 5 ft from us, took my bag, which contained all my keys, cards, cheque books etc, my expensive iridology camera, then used my keys to take my car as well. I'd had the car for 17 years and it was due an MOT today but was getting to the end of its life although it was mechanically sound and very tidy. I probably won't claim for the car as I will lose my no claims and I would probably only get a £100 pay out.

Then my contents insurance company refused to cover my loss for the camera, bag, cash etc, because the thieves did not break in or out. This was a clause on my consulting rooms but they applied it to my home as well.

My eldest son does a lot of work for a farmer and when he heard what had happened he offered us the use of a car which he was about to scrap. I'm using this now and it is great, 5 years younger than the old one, so we bought it from him for the scrap value only as my eldest son and I share a car. It is perfect for us as it is a Ford Escort Ghia turbo estate with roof rack, tow hitch and is very tidy except the drivers door where the farmers son drove a digger into it. My son is a diesel fitter and has sorted what was needed and one of my clients is giving me a surplus radio/tape player for it. Aren't people great?

When other people heard what had happened I was given advice from the head of a security firm plus a sensor and alarm box, help, advice, information and marking pens from a neighbourhood watch co-ordinator that I know.

Then in the first post after the robbery were some details about a national Trauma Specialists register and I decided this was for me. I was wondering why I was seeing so many young women who self harm and other people with such heart rending trauma. Unfortunately there are so many like these in desperate need for help. All of a sudden I have booked in a stream of people including another three from London for iridology so I had to buy another cheaper but superior camera yesterday! The registration of the new car ends in CAM so it will be a constant reminder.

I think all this has been giving me cause for deep soul searching which is why I posted up this subject as I haven’t been able to sort my jumbled thoughts, as yet.

Love and Light

Elizabeth
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Tracy Martin
Posted 7/4/2007 7:54 PM (#2132 - in reply to #2125)
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Elizabeth, you are not greedy, you are generous and embracing.  Allow the Universe to bless you through all kinds of exchanges of energy, including currency. Love and Respect!
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cause
Posted 7/4/2007 8:01 PM (#2134 - in reply to #2125)
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I would like to respond to Elizabeth's first post. Your statement that people where offended by your refusal of gifts is undoubtedly unwarranted. People who are sick want to be well, you healed them and this is in no way diminished by your refusal of gifts. Wellness is blessing beyond measure to anyone who has been sick.
Secondly, you deserve to live well, and no one should say otherwise. You have been educated to heal and that is undoubtedly an expense. Many people would miss your dilemma. Healing gratis is a lifestyle that is, I'm sure, difficult to support. If you charge everybody you may miss people who deserve to be well. And, if you charge some people, you are left with the choice of who to charge and who not to charge. I respect anyone who is in the position to make this decision.

Keep healing!

cause
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Frank in Japan
Posted 7/5/2007 10:00 AM (#2135 - in reply to #2125)
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Hi Elizabeth,

Thank you for sharing your experience with how the Universe has indeed come through with what you needed after what must have been a very disappointing and difficult time.

I have had experiences where things have gone disastrously wrong, but in the end have simply provided necessary energy shifts (and resultant changes in fundamental priorities) for better opportunities to become able to surface.

The Universe, in response to the energy you have invested thinking about these issues, will surely give you answers as to how you can continue your generosity and still have your needs met. How to find the balance in the short, medium and longer terms.

I've certainly had experiences with severe chronic stress relating to finances, and I have experienced great fear at certain times in my life about financial resources. I have however, come to get more comfortable with the ebb and flow of money as another form of energy. The less I focus on the lack of resources when that occurs, and give something of myself or resources away anyway, the attention shift takes place, and allows for more creative finance related ideas to come in too. The tide has always returned, and I have the Universe to thank for that.

Blessings and peace,

Frank
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Elizabeth Ann
Posted 7/5/2007 11:27 AM (#2136 - in reply to #2135)
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Hi Frank

Thank you so much, there is great wisdom in what you write.

Elizabeth
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Elizabeth Ann
Posted 7/5/2007 11:40 AM (#2137 - in reply to #2134)
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Hi Cause

Many thanks for your reponse. At the time when I returned the cheques I must admit that I felt that they could not accept my gift in the spirit it was given. Others on a more spiritual pathway would realise the gift and in return would then help others in whatever way they could, spreading compassion, love and understanding by example.

Love & Light

Elizabeth
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mruppert
Posted 7/7/2007 12:57 AM (#2144 - in reply to #2125)
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Hi to all in this discussion:
Just some story that you might draw some conclusions from....
I went to see a "gypsy" fortune teller a while back and paid 15 USD for a session that told me nothing that I did not all ready know. It was fun, and not very expensive.
Recently, my research associate went to Blackpool, UK (she lives in the UK) and had a session with Madam Petulengro; who is world famous. My research associate is neither naive nor gullible, nor easily fooled, and never made a fool of. It cost her a good bit of quid (that is to say pounds for those not English) but, it was well worth it. Madam Petulengro told her of many things, BUT, the most striking thing was she spoke of me, in the USA. There is NO WAY IN THE WORLD she could have known this....just NO WAY! The point is, the quid was well spent, given to a woman who has a true talent. Shouldn't she be paid for it?
I work for the State of Maryland, at a state university (which fortunately for me, my institution has a worldwide presence, so I get the added benefit of dealing with classrooms across the globe ) but I do it for the money....not for any joy in what I do...as I'd rather be doing something else. My research associate now works for the Queen; she loves what she does, but also does it for the money. Her healing practice is free. Sure, she would rather do healing full time, but how does one pay the mortgage and send a young man to Uni? (That's University for us Americans, or as we say college).
Dear Elizabeth, I have read your dissertation, and know, in my limited understanding, of what you do. And I have also seen your credentials, via your website, and I am impressed. Confirmedly so, as we have chatted about psychology and healing philosophies. I cannot see why you would not place a value, in monetary terms, for your services as rendered.
Charlatans and deceivers will quickly grab the money up, why not bring honesty and integrety to the fore? You can do this, without qualms, without reservations, without doubt.

Sincerely, your friend,
Marty



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Elizabeth Ann
Posted 7/7/2007 4:53 AM (#2145 - in reply to #2144)
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Hi Tracy and Marty

Thank you so much for your help in my confusion

Elizabeth
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cause
Posted 7/8/2007 10:23 PM (#2157 - in reply to #2125)
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mruppert has expressed eloquently what I wished to convey. Again, you deserve to live well.
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Dancer
Posted 7/15/2007 12:03 AM (#2213 - in reply to #2125)
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My humble opinion and what I intend to do in the future for my counseling clients is to have a price list for services, and then offer a sliding scale in small print, that the client would have to ask about. If they inquire, I will ask for a general monthly statement of income/expenses so we can figure out what would be fair. I have run another business for almost 10 years and have helped more than a few along the way with freebies. I have found I get burned most often by those who are handed the freebies without any questioning or work on their end. Not that I will ever stop helping people even though this has happened, but I find that if people have a vested interest in something, (paying a decent amount for it),they will consider it to have more value to them. You are worth every penny they spend on you. Most likely they will value your services more the higher your price even. But I do see your dilemma, which is why I say what I do as an alernative. I am currently looking at a new partnership with the schools, where I would be providing services free of charge, and have decided that because the services are directed at kids, I will require them to write a short essay or if younger, draw me a picture of why they would like my services, and then again half way through the scheduled session. I am hoping that this brings me people who really want to do this, rather than people just looking for handouts.
That's just my take.
Good luck to you.
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mruppert
Posted 7/15/2007 1:43 AM (#2214 - in reply to #2125)
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Hi all:
Dancer stated an interesting business model and practice.
I have one caution about what Dancer said.
Many countries somehow codify the "common law" (derived from England) into their legal systems. The USA develops and defines the "common law" to the most infintessimal of circumstances, primarily through the "law of torts".
In essence, if "we" agree that I shall give you "consideration" (e.g. money) for a "good or service" then a "contract" is created. If I do not pay you, then you have recourse under the law, to make me pay. ON THE OTHER HAND, if you do not give me the good or perform the service as agreed, then I have recourse under the law to make YOU pay me back, not only what I paid you, but also to pay me further for any circumstances that arise from your non-performance of the contract.
No big deal, as long as you are willing to pay exorbitant insurance fees to protect yourself against liability suits.
Regards,
Marty
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Dancer
Posted 7/16/2007 3:34 PM (#2235 - in reply to #2214)
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Thanks for your reply to my post Marty, could you please expound though?
I'm not sure I follow exactly what you're getting at, or which part of my message you were responding to.

Thanks much
Dancer
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AmeM
Posted 7/16/2007 7:17 PM (#2239 - in reply to #2125)
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Hi Elizabeth and Everyone:

I just have to reply to this one. I usually have a set fee, but will use a sliding scale based on what the client says they can pay. I don't ask for pay stubs or anything - even if someone lies about what they can afford (very rare), someone else will pay me more than I ask to make up for it. Or give me a gift or something. It always happens that way. Also, to keep from ever "feeling bad" about charging, I also volunteer at certain events. Many times I can participate in fund raisers where I either give a gift certificate that people buy, or they can just put money in a jar for the fund raiser. I always advocate volunteering and giving back. I think this also lets the Universe know that you are appreciative of all that has been provided in your life.

As far as giving back money, many people are very offended by this. I never ever do this. I grew up very, very poor, but we never accepted "hand outs" and this may be what your clients felt when you returned their money. Instead, if I feel someone should not have had to pay or they overpaid me, I give the money away - usually to some charity or other. Or every once in a while if I'm at a fast food place, I use the money to pay for someone else's order. You have to pick the right person, though, or they may freak out a little. I usually just say it's my Random Act of Kindness for the week and would they please let me pass on a gift that someone gave me. I also usually mention the website www.ActsofKindness.org that people can check out. Just find some way to spread the money around if you aren't comfortable taking it. At any rate, I mostly just thank the Universe for the money I wasn't expecting, pay some bills, and move on. An extra message or day at the spa doesn't hurt either. I mean, it sounds like you are very focused on your family, which is always a great quality. But maybe the Universe is telling you a little extra money should be spent pampering yourself?

However, I wonder why you're not comfortable taking it? You've spent so much time and money and effort and you deserve to be rewarded for the valuable service you provide.

Anyway, I'm glad to hear so many people's opinions on this. I know it is something almost everyone struggles with. Even in a "regular" job, women especially are less likely to ask for more money or raises. At least here in the States.
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mruppert
Posted 7/16/2007 10:17 PM (#2244 - in reply to #2125)
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Hi Dance:
I'll do this the only way I can......
Mr. Marty goes to see Madam Zorazorro to have his fortune told. The Madam says that she charges 100 clams for the deluxe package. He forks the dough over. The Madam tells him that he will receive fantastic amounts of money in a month and that within the year, he will marry Brittany BowsnArrows, a pop chantreuse. All bursting with joy, Mr. Marty waits and waits and waits. At the end of the year, Mr. Marty has lost all his specie, down to the last bit of fuzz he can find under the couch cushions, and Ms. BowsnArrows has remarried here ex, Kelvin Fodderling. Sooo, Mr. Marty marches back to Madam Zorazorro and says "Hey, nothing you said would come true has come true so gimme my mullah back!" Madam Zorazorro tosses Mr. Marty out the door where he falls heavily on his bum.
Still minus his 100 clams, and with a sore bum, Mr. Marty sues Madam Zorazorro for his dough. The judge says "Are you for real, or what?" The judge tosses Mr. Marty's suit out, and has the bailiff toss Mr. Marty out, thereby creating even greater pain in the rear, where Mr. Marty, in the past, has landed, and now once again.
Mr. Marty goes to see Boaz the Beneficient, who heals people of maladies through the use of Quizno-magnatomic Progressiveregressive Hypnohydro Therapy. He shows Mr. Marty a scale of fees, with a loop-de-loop slide scale, and a calculus slope payment option, including absolute zero temperature financing. Mr. Marty agrees to the fees WITH THE EXPECTATION that Boaz the Beneficient is going to make his rearward selfhood all better. After many sessions, including the application of the pangalactic collostrometer, Mr. Marty can still barely sit down, and barely stand up, and has some serious pain in reference to the ol' derrierer. This is after Mr. Marty has laid out some heavy coin of the realm to Boaz the Beneficient.
More broke than ever, Mr. Marty sues again, this time Boaz the Beneficient. The judge then says "BB (that's Boaz the Beneficient) you took MM's hard earned bread with the UNDERSTANDING that after therapy, the pain in his backside would slackside and he would be able to reside in comfort. But you didn't do that, now didja? You gotta give him every single red cent back.....and because poor Mr. Marty has lived in pain, long and hard, you gotta give him some more centavos for his suffering".
So, Mr. Marty gets back the 75 pence he spent for Boaz's therapy, and 15.5 gazillion dollahs for the pain and suffering he endured. With that many bucks, Pristina Aguilerious, another pop chantreuse, falls madly in love with him; they marry and have 2.5 kids, and a Volvo station wagon, with a Pratt-Whitney jet engine, and pimped like everythang.
One day, he returns to Madam Zorazorro, and slips her some serious Presidents, because, afterall, what she told him did "sorta" come true.
Oh, and Boaz was known as "Boaz the Bankrupt" for awhile, until he took another course, and is now known as Boaz the Mean-Bleems and Bleems-Meme therapist, who now helps people be mindful of memes, but never promises, by accepting fees, the specificity of results that can be expected.

Hope this helps,
Krazily yours,
Marty
Disclaimer: Any resemblance of the fictional people in this narrrative to real people is purely manifest destiny. All liars...oops...I mean lawyers participatory in the cases cited above are degreed and licensed, and may, one day, also learn the meaning of justice, just as soon as they quit the practice of law and take jobs at WalMart and Starbucks.
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Elizabeth Ann
Posted 7/18/2007 4:58 AM (#2282 - in reply to #2125)
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I happened on your post early yesterday morning and thought I would just look at youtube but I was hooked. I watched all eight straight off and by then it was about 8.30am so I decided to link in once I realised we were on summer time here. For over an hour before we began there seemed to be a stillness. I linked in to meditate, I am very used to long meditations but after 30 minutes I became aware that a pump truck was clearing the drain at the bottom of my road, orange light flashing and all, it was there for quite a while. It was not really disturbing me so I just linked back in deeply.

At the end of the hour I noticed that it had started to rain very heavily and a couple of minutes later two of my sons came back from work as it was lunchtime. Then it rained some more and around five minutes after my sons came in we had a flash flood coming off the hill road beside me, and water had nearly reached my back door. Never seen anything like this before nor has my Dad who has been around here for more than eighty years. My youngest son was home as well so we started to shift the water so the house did not flood and then went up to my consulting rooms to do the same there. My was it tipping it down, as I said never seen anything like it here before, I live in a built up area near town, the road to the side of me was like a river and the main road to the front of me was just water right up over the pavements. The drains were overwhelmed by the amount of water. Then I thought about the big drain on the corner being cleared and I realised things could have been much worse. It was all over in about 15 minutes but since then I have realised my task here is Earth Healing, something I was working on many years ago which had drifted to the background for a while.

Have a look at www.fountain-international.org You can view online a film and meditation called 'Helping to Heal the World" Simple but so very effective.

My humble opinion and what I intend to do in the future for my counseling clients is to have a price list for services, and then offer a sliding scale in small print, that the client would have to ask about. If they inquire, I will ask for a general monthly statement of income/expenses so we can figure out what would be fair. I have run another business for almost 10 years and have helped more than a few along the way with freebies. I have found I get burned most often by those who are handed the freebies without any questioning or work on their end. Not that I will ever stop helping people even though this has happened, but I find that if people have a vested interest in something, (paying a decent amount for it),they will consider it to have more value to them. You are worth every penny they spend on you. Most likely they will value your services more the higher your price even. But I do see your dilemma, which is why I say what I do as an alernative. I am currently looking at a new partnership with the schools, where I would be providing services free of charge, and have decided that because the services are directed at kids, I will require them to write a short essay or if younger, draw me a picture of why they would like my services, and then again half way through the scheduled session. I am hoping that this brings me people who really want to do this, rather than people just looking for handouts.

I just have to reply to this one. I usually have a set fee, but will use a sliding scale based on what the client says they can pay. I don't ask for pay stubs or anything - even if someone lies about what they can afford (very rare), someone else will pay me more than I ask to make up for it. Or give me a gift or something. It always happens that way. Also, to keep from ever "feeling bad" about charging, I also volunteer at certain events. Many times I can participate in fund raisers where I either give a gift certificate that people buy, or they can just put money in a jar for the fund raiser. I always advocate volunteering and giving back. I think this also lets the Universe know that you are appreciative of all that has been provided in your life.

As far as giving back money, many people are very offended by this. I never ever do this. I grew up very, very poor, but we never accepted "hand outs" and this may be what your clients felt when you returned their money. Instead, if I feel someone should not have had to pay or they overpaid me, I give the money away - usually to some charity or other. Or every once in a while if I'm at a fast food place, I use the money to pay for someone else's order. You have to pick the right person, though, or they may freak out a little. I usually just say it's my Random Act of Kindness for the week and would they please let me pass on a gift that someone gave me. I also usually mention the website www.ActsofKindness.org that people can check out. Just find some way to spread the money around if you aren't comfortable taking it. At any rate, I mostly just thank the Universe for the money I wasn't expecting, pay some bills, and move on. An extra message or day at the spa doesn't hurt either. I mean, it sounds like you are very focused on your family, which is always a great quality. But maybe the Universe is telling you a little extra money should be spent pampering yourself?

However, I wonder why you're not comfortable taking it? You've spent so much time and money and effort and you deserve to be rewarded for the valuable service you provide.

Anyway, I'm glad to hear so many people's opinions on this. I know it is something almost everyone struggles with. Even in a "regular" job, women especially are less likely to ask for more money or raises. At least here in the States.

Dancer
You are so right about some of the people who we give freebies to and who do not value this gift to them.

AmeM
I love what you say about picking the right person when you pay someone else’s order, yes a lot of people would freak out. I also now believe that you need to pick the right people to give freebies to as well because of what Dancer said about some not valuing your gift.

But with a developed spiritual being I truly feel honoured to help and that is reward enough. I just need to work out the right ones and charge the rest. I think my lesson was not so much about being uncomfortable taking money, as this has now become a necessity but that I should not allow certain people to take so much from me, thus making me question why I was allowing this.

I have been able to sort my thoughts especially after Fire the Grid yesterday, see my post to explain more. Suddenly I knew the answer to my dilemma. In the past I have done much work concerning Earth healing, many years ago I was taking part in a healing weekend where therapists around me were focused on money, money, money. A situation was brought to me by the Universe where Earth healing was required it also happened to be Full Moon that night. I did my bit, I saw myself as the part required on the Earth plane, like a key, so on doing my bit the rest was actioned by other Universal spiritual beings and energies above me to complete the task. When I went back to the healing event the next day I could not stop laughing, the therapists around me must have thought I was mad, they were probably right! All that I could hear in my mind was “Well who do I send the bill to?” Money was totally irrelevant; I absolutely knew that the Universe would take care of me. I am now remembering that which I always knew.

In the last week in a moment of inspiration I decided to put on a healing event in my home town. I used to run 3 or 4 very large International motorcycle and life style shows a year for 20 years. I can use this event as a showcase for myself and other healers, therapists, readers and associated traders, and help those in need in the process. I can now use all my skills and intuition again, I feel so motivated and energised and loving this new venture, I am devoting one fabulous circular room for mass healings that will culminate in utilising the energy that builds up to help heal the Earth and all in and on it. This event will be free to visitors, the rent will be covered by the participants. I have every intention of building this event up to a large one and maybe even putting on healing events at other venues in Britain.

Many Bright Blessings to Frank, Tracy, Marty, Cause, Dancer and AmeM, hope I didn’t miss anyone, for helping to sort me out.

Love and Light

One very much revitalised, Elizabeth

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Tracy Martin
Posted 7/18/2007 1:46 PM (#2284 - in reply to #2125)
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Marty, you are too funny. Chuckling away at work. Elizabeth, your creativity is exploding like beautiful fireworks all over the world!

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mruppert
Posted 7/19/2007 12:19 AM (#2291 - in reply to #2125)
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Hi to all of you wonderful people,
Silliness aside, I have no great love or affinity for traditional doctors, or medicine. Although I am required to by my employer's health plan, I see a doctor rarely. Every year for a "checkup?" NO, not for me. Once, every five years, a nurse calls me and says that I have not been in for my yearly checkup in five years. So, I gotta go! I walk in feeling on the tippy-top of the world, and I walk out having learned that I have every imaginable malady EXCEPT "Housemaid's Knee" (a tip of the hat to Jerome K. Jerome)
And, I abhor the "business" that the care and curing of those that are sick has become. The schedules, scales, and lists for the treatment of conditions makes me sicker than those that are sick.
Vultures gather around a profoundly flawed system of health care and pick the bones of it clean by virtue of lawsuits.
Alternative and holistic therapies and practices have long been immune to the carnage that is our present day health care quagmire. But, as these alternative and holistic practices become more and more "mainstream" it won't be long before the vultures smell a happy meal.
All I am saying is that when anyone sets themselves up to be "like", in any way, shape, fashion, or form, our traditional practice of health care, THEY MUST also recognize that the vultures, having picked the bones of traditional health care clean, will look for another meal, and a most satisfying one. So, those that engage in the art of healing, particulary for money, must be aware and prepared for such an instance.
To all of you, and particularly to the true healers,
Solace, Peace...Profound,
Marty


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Dancer
Posted 7/19/2007 6:27 PM (#2312 - in reply to #2125)
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Elizabeth Ann,

I am so happy for you. It feels so good to sort things out after a major mind fog, you must be on cloud nine!
Thank you for all you do for the earth, her people, and those of us here at UMS!
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Elizabeth Ann
Posted 7/20/2007 4:21 AM (#2317 - in reply to #2312)
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Hi Dancer

It is more like cloud 59 at the moment

Elizabeth
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Elizabeth Ann
Posted 7/29/2007 10:25 AM (#2428 - in reply to #2282)
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I was going to post an update here and I noticed that my post 2282 on the 18th July also included posts by others on this thread, but I am unable to alter this now. The Universe at work in some way no doubt!!

Anyway to the update, I am well into putting on this new healing event on 29th Septemeber this year and I have also booked Sunday 30th March 2008 and Saturday 27th September 2008 which I plan to be a very big event. As I am offering free entry I needed a way to make some money for myself here. I am charging traders, therapists, healers and readers for space so I can at least cover the rent on the rooms, marketing, paperwork etc. I thought about mini iridology sessions and selling my jewellery (I have made so much of it!!) but I will also be running the event, and doing mass healings so how could I split myself so many ways?

I have now been given the answer, my task is to put on these healing events to bring all the people together who are drawn to this event. There is no point messing around with mini iridology readings as this will tie me up. So I need to sell my jewellery and my tumble stones and in the process talk to however may need to talk to me. Feels good, then at other times I will be able to help those around me as and when necessary. I love making the jewellery and have been improving my methods as I go, this jewellery is made with love and will give each person what they need. I will be able to make some money doing the events but still provide free entry and have a place to sell my jewellery which will also help me financially, and others, so I now feel very good about all this. I can be there to help those around me who can give me whatever, a donation, buy a necklace or give me some of their valuable time to help the World, the Universe and many other souls at these events. It has taken quite a long time to sort this all out, it is more of an exchange and sits very well with me.

Hope all this makes sense, it is a revelation to me!! At the wedding yesterday where I did the reading from the Bible as requested, there were a couple of souls who told me their stories and others who may need to tell me theirs as well so I can help them on their personal pathways. I have never charged for working in this way. However the iridology I am very happy to charge for, it is very demanding and I certainly would not choose to do this for free.

Many thanks to all who have read and/or responded to this thread.

Love and Light

Elizabeth
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mruppert
Posted 7/29/2007 9:47 PM (#2430 - in reply to #2125)
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Hi Doc Diamond.....go where your heart takes you and you will never have pause or regret. Nor will you ever need or want.
Warmest,
Marty
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Dancer
Posted 7/30/2007 10:36 AM (#2434 - in reply to #2428)
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Wish you were closer to the U.S., I'd love to get in on your event!
Best of luck!
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Elizabeth Ann
Posted 7/30/2007 5:48 PM (#2441 - in reply to #2434)
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Hi Marty

Thanks for your sincere message it strikes right into my heart, my dear friend.

Hi Dancer

You would be very welcome if you could make it, the big one will be on Saturday 27th September 2008, perhaps that might be possible. See how things develop for you.

Very best wishes

Elizabeth
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