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Laura Phillips
Posted 10/4/2005 11:17 PM (#25)
Subject: Astrology


Do you have any astrological insights and knowledge that you would like to pass on? Are there important astrological events that you know about that might help everyone today? Do you have questions about astrology that you would like answers on?
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teresa
Posted 10/24/2005 3:34 AM (#51 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology


Does anyone know if any important astrological transitions are coming up that might be problematic for selling a house? I'm getting ready to sell my house and put on the market, and just wondering if there are any astrological influences I should be aware of? I don't know much about astrology, but could use some advice!

Edited by teresa 10/24/2005 3:34 AM
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eoswildcat
Posted 7/3/2006 4:53 PM (#647 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology


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I don't have anything in specific to contriblute at this time, exept to let folks know that I do have a Diploma in Astrology and Parapsychology, as well as planning on studying more in the fields, so if anyone needs specifics, I would be glad to help. besides I need the practice honing my skills
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Oye
Posted 7/4/2006 1:54 AM (#655 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology


Teresa,
You may wish to advertise or take prospective buyers to the house on the following days and periods:

Mon. -- Wed.-- Frid.

6.51am-- 10.17am--- 1.42pm--
1.42pm-- 5.08pm -- 8.34pm

Be blessed.

Edited by Oye 7/4/2006 1:58 AM
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IAMMiracles
Posted 9/15/2006 11:10 PM (#895 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology


There is a wonderful, trenchant page on about astrology given by Beloved Saint Germain in Volume 3 "I AM" Discourses published by Saint Germain Press. The basic idea is that astrology is much different than it was in ancient India or as the Masters used it -- whereby it was Empowering and Accurate. Today, it is often used as a tool which one looks outside their own God Self for an Answer or uses it to bind another to a condition that is only an appearance. The Planets & Stars, while influencing us, are Truly influenced by a Master. To become Such, One realizes the entire Cosmos, Solar System and Milky Way is Within. We are the Cosmos in miniature. We are Gods and Goddesses in embryo. Becoming an Adult God or Goddess, we truly Realize that We may govern these planetary systems within and We may, via free will, Achieve, Attain and Complete Our Mission -- whatever It Is We So Decree!
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Aquarius
Posted 10/12/2006 12:04 PM (#1011 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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When you asked for astrological insights, Laura, for me, there is no more beautiful and simple way of explaining God’s nature and our own than with the help of astrology. To get started, the masculine represents the power aspect of God, which expresses itself through Fire and Air. The feminine is the devotional, sensitive, feeling aspect of the Goddess. Through the elements Earth and Water, she yields to and shapes herself in response to the creative ideas and impulses of Fire, which are being communicated to her through the mental element of Air. Our world is in the process of learning that even God can only in harmonious and peaceful co-operation with the Goddess, bring anything into being; the same is true in our world as it is in all worlds. If we wish to create the new and peaceful world we so badly need and desire, each has to make their own contribution. Both men and women have to learn to live and work together, striving to find harmony within and without. Each needs to give of their best, whatever that may be and in whatever capacity we may find ourselves, in accordance to that which has been given unto us.
Our Highest Self is constantly trying to communicate with us. It does so through intuitions, hunches and gut feelings that come to us through the world of our feelings. It is our task to learn to listen to what it is trying to tell us. When we have learnt to follow its directions, it can and does unerringly guide us towards the people and experiences that are right for us, at any given moment. Will that do for starters?

With Love and Light,
Aquarius

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Aquarius
Posted 10/14/2006 11:38 AM (#1028 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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There is no doubt in my mind that the Age of Aquarius is now with us. Aquarius rules topics like astrology, technology, especially as related to computes. This means that we are presently on our way back home into our true nature. And to help humankind on its way, ever more knowledge from the Highest levels of life is relentlessly being poured into the collective and individual consciousness of our world. The water-bearer is the symbol of Aquarius, the sign of revolution. And to this day, there is a great deal of confusion about this sign; because of its name, many believe it to be a water sign. However, it is not water of the liquid kind that the water bearer pours into the consciousness of humankind, but the cleansing waters of spiritual knowledge and wisdom. This is what White Eagle had to say in one of his teachings, in which he indicated where the Master of the New Age will lead us in our search for spiritual truth, namely inwards; only there shall we find what we are looking for: ‘The Master Jesus made reference to the Aquarian Age before the celebration of the Last Supper, when he bade two of his disciples to follow the man bearing a water-pot on his shoulder. The man carrying the water-pot is the symbol of the astrological sign Aquarius. His water is a symbol of the living waters of the Spirit [spiritual knowledge, which the bearer pours into the minds of humankind, to cleanse its spirit from false beliefs and illusions]. The disciples did as they were told and were led by this man [the water-bearer] to an inn. This may be understood as a place of sanctuary for travellers. The man of the New Age, the man of the Spirit [our inner guide and Master], will lead you to the inn, the sanctuary [everybody’s own inner sacred space].’ Angelus – December 1941

With Love and Light,

Aquarius

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eoswildcat
Posted 1/19/2007 1:43 PM (#1400 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology


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Well I'm A Cancer-Leo Cusp, (Cancer being Water, Leo Being fire) With an Aquarius Accendent, and Scorpio Moon...Regerding the Chinese System, I am A Monkey, With the Element of Metal, and born in the Hour of Boar. In the Egyptian system Im Born under the rulership of the goddess Bast.
no wonder it takes me a while to ground!

Edited by eoswildcat 1/19/2007 1:45 PM
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Dancer
Posted 4/20/2007 2:42 PM (#1729 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology


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An interesting link to earth energies is whatsuponplanetearth.com. I get energy alerts from her that seem to be right on. Not necessarily astrology, but earth energy/planetary and star alignment related.

I'm struggling with her explanation of the Virginia Tech tradgedy though.
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mruppert
Posted 4/20/2007 11:45 PM (#1732 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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Hello Dancer:
What was the explanation of the Vtech tragedy that you mentioned?
All I can think of now is that we, at the University of Maryland, having booed, insulted, and made fun of the "Hokies" since we are competitors against them in the Atlantic Coast Conference, have gathered together to send our most heartfelt sympathy and condolences, coupled with prayers and chants and all means of support for them.
I think, somehow, that knowing those that boo you and wish your defeat on the atheltic field, now wish you to heal and be well will somehow aid in the healing process.

Regards,
Marty
P.S. In my view, the ultimate answer is that the guy was very deeply disturbed and had turned within himself, instead of embracing an outward vision. Fueled with rage, he acted out a fantasy; which was all too real. There was nothing anyone could have done.......EXCEPT......his parents!!!!!! Where do they fit into this picture????? Do you not notice that no one seems to be talking about them other than to say that they work at a dry cleaners? Not only did their son kill 32 people, but that is their son that died.....by his own hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please excuse me, I am emotionally close to this situation, as I have friends at VPI.
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Aquarius
Posted 4/21/2007 12:09 PM (#1734 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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'I'm struggling with her explanation of the Virginia Tech tragedy though.'

Dear Friend - try not to look to the stars for explanations for all these things. Nothing happens perchance - everything is of a Karmic nature - and all rests safely in the hands of God, the Universe, if you prefer. For myself, I find it's the only way to live this life. We and our world are all learning specific lessons - and the most important one to me is learning to trust again, no matter what befalls our world on the outer level of life.

With love and light,

Aquarius

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cause
Posted 10/16/2007 8:47 PM (#2713 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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I have been looking into celestial interests of late and have come across an item of interest, the astrolabe. A web-search for an astrolabe will result in ancient astrolabes and modern reproductions. These are useful in the study of astronomy and astrology. (I'm putting one on my wish list.) With one you can locate stars calculate oppositions and the like, look at the location of stars on a given day, and find the time day or night. The astrolabe gives one a hands on understanding of celestial mechanics, and I imagine a very good one.

Another item of interest I found is a copious quantities of free-ware stellar viewers. beautiful, if not as hands-on as the aforementioned.
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mruppert
Posted 10/19/2007 11:35 PM (#2720 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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Hi all and to you Cause!
     Isn't the astrolabe a precursor to the sextant? I ask because I am curious as to how the Phoenicians were such successful navigators. How did the Polynesians got home after sailing virtually uncontrolled?  And, lest we forget, how did Cristoforo Colombo (hey, come on, the guy was Italian...the Spanish changed his name to something else, as we did the same many years later) get home, or at least back to Spain?
     It seems to me that, based on my study of this subject, many people in the past were far more aware of astrology than in more modern times, as a practical matter. There were many applications to knowing the "stars" and the constellations, that bear names that we use today.

Peace and starshine,
Marty
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cause
Posted 10/20/2007 12:15 AM (#2721 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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The sextant was actually a much simpler device that grew from the same technology, undoubtedly due to the prohibition against studying the stars. Everything you can accomplish with a sextant you can reproduce with an astrolabe. The astrolabe is also capable of at least six other functions. I mentioned some of them in my earlier post. You can find your location on the planet and find what the stars look like in any given location. I've found several makers and you can pay from $120 to $3500 for a reproduction, and I'm sure you very much get what you pay for, much like jewelry. Original astrolabes (16th century and the like) are often very much not for sale or exorbedently expensive. A fully functional quality astrolabe is an instrument and a work of art.

From the prospective of someone who wants to find astrological events they are quite valuable as well. Imagine finding a natal chart in a fraction of the time and looking at an ephemeris half as much. Not to mention specifics of location of stars in the location in question. We should say expensive but not necessarily a toy.

The most beneficial function is the ability to have stellar mechanic in your hand. A tempting new distraction and expense.

May the stars shine upon us,

cause
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mruppert
Posted 10/21/2007 3:19 AM (#2726 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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Hi Lyonna Lioness,
     "when there is a good aspect in our horoscope, life goes smooth

when there is a bad aspect in our horoscope, life is a struggle"

I read from a very old text that "the stars impel, they do not compel" and so I think that your statement is a bit fatalistic.
And, you have given me an idea that I will try on this website.
So....bye as I am gong to start a new thread.....hopefully there will be more than a few who can participate, if so, we can draw some "scientific" conclusions.

Peace and Happiness,
Marty
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cause
Posted 10/27/2007 2:50 PM (#2776 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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I will start this post with the declaration that I know little of astrology as a study. When I think of stars I normally think of Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking and 'black holes', or Mr. Spock and 'time space anomalies'. But. with my renewed interest in stars and my interest in metaphysics I find myself faced with the notion that stars and planets effect the people on this planet. I have known for years that according to police records people are more mischievous on the full moon than at other times and yet I did not look into astrology. I still am trepidatious of lending credence to all of what is out there in the realm of astrology, this is coupled almost paradoxically with the knowledge that we are entering the age of aquarius and the world appears to be changing in impressive ways.

I am writing this partially to receive a simple understanding of traditional astrology from the perspective of someone who has some experience with the practice. If you are out there and wish to share please do. My second reason is that I am looking for, and I am convinced that I may find, modern scientific studies of behavior patterns with particular correspondence with the stars and will be searching the internet for such after this post. The third question I am asking is what force from the sky effects us and our behavior, or what is the action of the stars and planets that changes the state of affairs on this planet.

Anyone out there with experience willing to take on a newbie?

Clear sky wishes,

cause
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mruppert
Posted 10/28/2007 10:59 PM (#2780 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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Hi Cause, et al;
     My interest in this comes from looking at ancient bibles, that used astrological charts to "timeline" certain events and passages.
I spent hours at the Walters Gallery of Art, in Baltimore, MD examining "illuminated bibles" of the Byzantine and Coptic faiths, christian/catholic; at least by the standards of the time.
     I also went in with the bias of a historian, in that I believe that people did not write down things which were insignificant, as writing was not a luxury, but a PRIVILEGE, and most expensive in the terms of the time, to do. Therefore, people only wrote what was significant to them. And, it seems, that astrological star charts WERE, as much or moreso than the word of God, i.e. "the Bible".
     Should one pay attention to daily horoscopes in newspapers and online? Sure, as it is a lot of fun...but, to me, that is all that it is. Should one pay attention to a qualified astrologer, who can read a chart? Well, I am still questioning that. But, my propensity of belief says that there is some validity to it.
     Hence, my post to Virgos, as it is a most controlling sign....if what is thought about astrology, is indeed true, then we WILL share the common characteristics of the sign, no matter how separated we are in age, gender, geography, ethnic background, education, political orientation, social/economic scale. We will find that we are one!
     We have one poster of a definitive identity and sign, hand-in-hand, yet there is no true identity...as it is much like the running water, still water, and seeping water. Water which succumbs to the law of gravity, yet can spring forth with the application of pressure and temperature.
     I cannot say more about Virgos, as I do not want to bias responders to another post...though, I fear that I may all ready have done so. But, now that I read back, not too much as what I wrote is not what I was going to ask.

Peace,
Marty

    
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mruppert
Posted 11/3/2007 2:52 AM (#2824 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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Hy Ly:
"according to c.c. zain a person who live with nature will have less education than a person brought up in a city environment
they may both have the same birth chart
but because of the society they live in, they will have different oppurtunities and different ways of self expression"

Lyo...it isn't necessarily so! We have people who are raised in a "city" environment who are as ignorant, dumb and stupid as dirt, and that is insulting to dirt, which might well be very smart. And, dirt must be smart, as a packet of seeds will not grow into plants, unless and until you stick'um down in the dirt.
Now, Lienn, as far as Cee Cee goes, that is an observation-non observation. Of course, in the way that Zain puts it, there will be notable differences, but that can be said of anyone, anywhere.
     The charting of stars and planets is astronomy, not astrology. Anyone can do this for anyone and anything. You can plot a birth chart for the shed you put up in your backyard, if you care to do so. Will the shed care? Will you care?
      My point is that those born under signs do, indeed, exhibit commonalities, a great many of which are mutable.However, those born under Spica, are unilaterally consistent in subtle things, regardless of the wheres and whens; and qualities of upbringing and environment.

Love atcha,
Marty, and cats of unknown signs
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Supernatural3
Posted 11/3/2007 11:07 AM (#2829 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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I think we can have a plan... since we are god, why wouldn't we create a plan for ourselves? I think my astrology fits me extremely well. Sometimes it's so accurate, it's pretty scary how it could be so true. Since no two charts are alike, it's not possible to all of a sudden call it being prejudice. I cannot pinpoint how that could happen. It's also used as guidance, for the best road specifically built for each individual. I know astrology pretty well, but i chose not to specialize in it. But i did specialize in handwriting analysis. I can tell someone's problems / personality and disorders by their handwriting alone. That doesn't make me prejudice, it makes me scientific. Astrology is very much based on science and calculations, then you add the metaphysics with personality traits that tend to be somehow correct, yet generalized enough not to over do it. This is done so each individual CAN choose their own road, but will most likely want the road of least resistance. I just love it when science and spirituality come together. Astrology is just one example.



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freethought
Posted 11/3/2007 8:18 PM (#2831 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology


Hi... I am new here and old here and glad to be here,

About astrology...

Astrology is a LANGUAGE that is used to further understand self, events and life patterns. As such, looking at this language as a helping tool that can promote spiritual growth, astrology can be quite useful. It is NOT some kind of unwavering oracle and is NOT some judgemental, categorizing language art. Rather, it is through the serious and relaxed study of this art that one may begin to understand oneself in light of the differences and similarities amongst beings on earth who are sharing this dynamic experience.

As an example, no two sun sign Virgos are the same. Yes, there may be similarities; but, there are so many varying factors like the ascendant position and degree, and the moon sign and all of the other planets in the chart that relate to one another in a specifically individual way. Further, there is to consider the individual evolutionary path and the societal factors that do play a part in how the astrological factors in a being's chart express themselves.

Boy, there is so much information... too much for a singular post... yet, this language called astrology is only a tool for all of us to study and talk about in order to better understand our existences here and why we are as we are. Accordingly, this is to acknowledge that, if there were no astrology, we would still be here living our lives as the beings we are. You are you whether astrology exists here or not.

With that in mind and the realization that all beings are different, why not have some fun talking about life and self while applying the principles of astrology in order to gain perspective? Thus, we can rejoice in our differences and similarities while perhaps gaining some knowledge that might help us in the understanding of self and the other as we interact in the play within the play of the Creator.

for illumination always

freethought
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mruppert
Posted 11/5/2007 11:58 PM (#2835 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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Hi all:
     It is times like this that I wish we could "talk" rather than write.
     But, since writing is the means we have..I will try to say this as best as I can...
     I do not deny individualism nor free will, from any viewpoint.
     But, it seems that the consensus of opinion is that signs are file drawers, and that one simply needs to "chart" and put it in a folder and  file it in the proper drawer. Hence, astrology!
      If each folder is so highly individualistic, then you can file them anywhere as long as you create an order in how it is done.
      I may well be wrong, but I think that it is a bit different. I think that those folders that go into the AQ or the AR or GE or  VI, or the CA drawers, upon examination, will show that they are in these drawers because of certain commonalities, no matter how subtle they might be. I think one person said "proclivities" and yes, that is a good term.
      If there were no connectedness, then we would not have astrology as we know it today, and as it was studied in ancient times. There would be only a statistical list of those that were born on given days, at given times, in given places, and a recounting of where the moon was, and some planets and the sun, and some stars. There would be no "science" to it.
     But, when you analyze those in the file drawer VI and relate them to one another, and conclude that they "tend" to be analytical, as a common trait, then you have a 'science" and you may well call it astrology, or anything  else you want to name it.
     Of course you can say that a bunch of people from other drawers are analytical, and that a gazillion people across our globe are analytical, but that is really not the point. It is the commonality and relationship of those that are within that one, distinct drawer, and the consistency of such that gives the validity to a science such as astrology. Otherwise, it is just astronomy, a science of positioning oneself by reference to the sky.
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freethought
Posted 11/6/2007 1:52 PM (#2837 - in reply to #2835)
Subject: RE: Astrology


Hi,

1. Science, as we know it during these times, is silly (see the worthlessness of scientific language and the idiocy in the pharmaceutical realm).

2. Astrology and medicine and psychology are arts and not sciences.

3. Of course there are similarities and it does seem like you might need to talk because I do get that you are searching for sensicality and that there is agreement here muddled by this inefficient dynamic we call "communication" on this earth. It seems that we are not connecting due to the framework of thinking rather than taking strikingly different positions.

Now, to dialogue about science would be a worthy exchange, but astrology as we understand it today is no more a science than tarot cards. In fact, labeling it a science is to suggest that it is as silly as science. Astrology is a tool to help people. Science is a bought and paid for copout as it masquerades, for billions of dollars, as something meaningful. That said, there is no science on the other side as every being knows these things that science studies innately and this relegates science to an attachment that is buried upon death with the body.

Wow... now there is a diatribe! Sorry... but I see the creator as all about art and nothing about science other than science as an art (which very much includes intuitive thinking rather than tedious testing and analysis by those who can afford to become scientists/doctors because they are born wealthy and have an attachment to MONEY.... a disgraceful attachment for those who take an oath to heal).

for expanded thinking that questions everything about science and history (a great lie)... we need to progress past the limitations of Saturn and move into the higher thinking/being as promoted by the trans-saturnian planets

freethought

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Supernatural3
Posted 11/6/2007 2:25 PM (#2838 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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I have to differ on opinion here. Astrology is indeed based on some mathematical equations, which is indeed science (physics). Math is what science is based on.... All of physics is based on math. When it cannot be calculated, is why it is then called Meta-physics -Which is where spirit and science come together. Metaphysics is the blend of both science and spirit and some of these modalities are astrology, runes, tarot, etc. Almost every form of divination has some sort of mathematical aspect to it. It's our universal language.

Who are we to say science is not a part of any of this? It certainly is..... It's just that some scientists refuse to believe in something they cannot calculate 100% and some spiritualist refuse to give science any credit, for being limited. Yet, if it were not for science, we would not be able to communicate this way at all, nor have the things we have like heat, stoves, phones, computers, etc.

I vote for a blend of both to achieve greater happiness. (at least while in Human form)

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freethought
Posted 11/6/2007 4:27 PM (#2839 - in reply to #2838)
Subject: RE: Astrology


Well said. Thanks for trying to bring it together. I am one who always pushes the envelope in order to promote dynamic communication and thought. As such, I enjoy dancing atop notions that are often taken for granted in this society of material attachment and material creation.

With math and physics in mind, as languages for understanding, I think Einstein had the right idea. The universe can be understood with those languages. Now why science is unable to apply itself to such potential understandings rather than some new technological weapon for killing or some poison medicine or a missing black hole or some new terminology only a scientist cares about is something to consider.

Who are we and what are we doing here on this planet? Astrology can address these issues that are considered to be metaphysical because they are beyond science (only because there is no money in studying truth in being).

That said, I believe that astrology is not understood at all by the majority of people. Study and communication is all that is needed to understand the metaphysical arts and yet people here would rather study the stock market than why they are here and what this 3D living on this singular planet is about.

By the way, do the "qualifications" you state about yourself entitle you to more consideration than another? No need. Your point is well-taken whomever you are.

with kindness and the hope for truth in relating

freethought



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Posted 11/6/2007 4:49 PM (#2841 - in reply to #2839)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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freethought - 2007-11-06 4:27 PM

By the way, do the "qualifications" you state about yourself entitle you to more consideration than another?



Naw, my opinion is only that... another opinion. I am however very proud of all the learning i have done. I hit the science world with physics the same time i was heavily into the paranormal and metaphysics. I had a professor who thought everything i had to say was hogwash. I just giggled, because i felt sorry for him being so closed minded to what only science could prove. How limited.

Anyone else is also entitled to learn as much as they can too. It does not make me superior, it makes me more compassionate and able to see all sides as much as i can. All my education has also taught me how to relate with others and allow them to be who they are. I love so much in this world, yet i long to be done. I still haven't gotten to where i want to be yet... but working on it.

I happen to agree with a lot of things you say.... but by all means, while we are all on this planet, we all have to deal with the same things. There is an aweful lot of pain and suffering going on and wrong things. My goal is to not be part of that suffering and help others separate from pain too. That is why i chose psychology / hypnotherapy and metaphysics.

I am STILL in school for psychotherapy. This time i want to be licensed by the State of Ohio so i can collect insurance for people to come for my help, some people cannot afford this type of needed service. It's a shame that the states do not allow for metaphysians to practice psychology. It's not an exact science either, now that i totally agree on. I am only continuing so i can follow the state regulations. I should be completely done with school by 2010. I will be 44 yrs old.

I am also a LEO.... with this being a topic in Astrology, we all know that LEO's tend to be very large in EGO. LOL I harness my ego side, i am actually proud of it. I am a true Leo with my moon sign also in FIRE.... double fire. YIKES.... what is weird is... my personality fits astrology very much so. It's amazing how so. I am a firm believer in metaphysics, but while on earth, i have to go with supporting physics too. I look ohhhh so forward to being bodiless again.

I must say, i am a total leader, but after i start it, i do expect others to be able to finish it. I am the one who pushes and starts the fire... but want help in gathering that wood to keep it going. Make sense?

I love all the contributions here....
HUGS

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