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freethought
Posted 11/6/2007 7:16 PM (#2843 - in reply to #2841)
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Cool thread! Sending a blessing to you...

I was thinking, while walking through the woods, that a good signature for astrology might be to denotate planetary positions in the birth chart. In this way, one could discuss astrological configurations in order to further knowledge. For example, one of these threads talked about the sign Virgo in a way that I would speak of it. Virgo and money? I don't know about that one. I have Taurus and the love of possessions (including mate), Capricorn and money/career/success and Virgo as a pragmatic where money is concerned. Of course, there are many other characteristics. The earth signs definitely have a feeling for planting and growing things. They tend to be more practical. Only Virgo is really talkative and has many self-doubts and can be critical of others. Capricorn can be secretive and narcissistic. Taurus can become enraged after much pushing. But, Taurus is a great host for their friends, loves music and can be very loyal. Capricorn is patient and the help they give is well-thought-out and of considerable value. And Virgo is a fun communicator and a singular companion. Just some of the things.

Relatedly, if there are other signs dominant in the chart (say Sagittarius for the Capricorn), then the Sun sign may be de-emphasized.

For astrologers, the above is simplistic. Yet, for most persons, it seems as complicated as learning to speak a foreign language. They do not understand it at all and it may be the astrologer's chore, as such, to teach the language of the art while addressing the life issues.

good wishes to all and to this mother earth deserving of our care

freethought
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mruppert
Posted 11/8/2007 10:52 PM (#2852 - in reply to #25)
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Hi all:
     After reading, it seems that some of us are tending to pick the worst of each thing and hold it up as evidence that the entire body of knowledge is bad.
     This can be done with anything, for example,
"Astrology can address these issues that are considered to be metaphysical because they are beyond science (only because there is no money in studying truth in being)."
      Anyone who believes that  "scientists" as a whole are  making tons of money are badly misinformed. We just had a group of NASA scientists at the I&CC and after talking to a few in some evening reveries, I found out that they make way less than I do, and I don't get paid much as I am a state employee at a state university. As a whole, scientists depend on institutions of learning, grants, and foundations for their livelihood...the money is not great and it is not steady. Sure there are those who do well by virtue of patents and licensing, and there are those who are well paid "frontmen/women" for large corporations....but that is not the majority! It is a small minority.
     On the other hand, there are astrologers who make tons of money for absolutely nothing....put a site on the Internet, a few testimonials; and the money rolls in for "personal" horoscopes that are generated by a computer program....that say the same words for different people, born different times and different places! This is not a lie.....we (my friends and I)  have done this as a test and can show you that it is true......try it yourself, if you're willing to spend anywhere between 39 USD up to 99 USD for a "basic" reading....and also are willing to get constant emails for even more insightful information for a few dollars more. But, you will have to invest even more money to alter some basic information just to see if the reading changes....and it doesn't in essence. Some words are different, but most are not.
    Those so called astrologers that do this, and those so called scientists that write learned papers in order to validate the need for a drug to alleviate "restless leg syndrome" are one and the same. What they are is up to you to judge. But, you cannot condemn what they represent as a body of knowledge as  invalid by their actions.
     On another point, Doc J responded that she is a LEO and therefore has an "ego". That is true, and her sign tends towards heavy emphasis on the "ego"....but, as I have said in other posts, ego is not BAD...it is one's sense of self worth. However, I do not see that the letters that she puts after her name as a "boasting" or a self  "aggrandizement". I see it as an honest representation of accomplishment and proficiency in things she has studied. In other words, we can check this out....we can see that her achievements are real, and not some fake letters, as quite a few put after their names, and turn out to be frauds, as we particularly see in the field of "pop" psychology, inspirational guidance and, yes, my friends, metaphysics! Oh, yes, we see it in science, also.
    Having ridden the crest of this wave, I 'm going down, and will finish by saying that I still do not see the inconsistencies
between science,metaphysics, and religion. "Our" science came from the metaphysics of times gone by, the scientists of the past drank the mothers milk of metaphysics, and birthed and rebirthed the spirit and spirituality of inquiry into the unknown.
Most likely, you all have cellphones, or mobiles, if you are in a country that calls them that. I can explain to you exactly how they work, as I work in telecommunications, but how do they REALLY work? Your voice travels through the air long distances...just as was thought was possible a very long time ago. Some of you may even be at a computer or laptop that is communicating wirelessly. But, didn't those that kneeled on terra-firma a long time ago,  and uttered a prayer for a god or gods to hear; and anticipated a reply......didn't they have the first "wireless " network?

Peace to you all, and great joy that we have come together,
Marty and  Luckylee, Poppyhead and SissyGirl (cool cats, as it is a chilly night)

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Aquarius
Posted 11/11/2007 2:46 PM (#2872 - in reply to #25)
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Dear Lyonna,

That principle applies to any interpretation of anything – be it astrology or any other subject. We can only ever view our world or parts of it and speak or write about it through our own eyes, inner and outer, and our own perception of life. With love – Aquarius

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Supernatural3
Posted 11/11/2007 11:07 PM (#2877 - in reply to #25)
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Selfish is sometimes needed, because in order to help others, we have to help ourselves. It's the extremes that kills it for us all. That basically fits with anything and everything. Moderation and balance are the keys. It's ok to have some ego and greed, but when it's overdone at the expense of another is when it's now poison. Astrology can hit on ones tendency to over do it in certain area's and at certain times, so we can become aware of these tendancies during our calculated weak times. Even if it's all in the head, it somehow works and gives us something to work with. I love astrology. Perhaps when i am all done with school, i will delve deeper into it more than the basics. I personally always got confused on all the houses, or I just got bored with it. It seemed none of my clients understood a single thing i was saying when i tried to explain why i was saying what i was.... so i just kept to the simple things and then i started other things.

I have been told lately that i have been giving and giving and never letting myself get. Shame on me... the circle has to be complete to flow. Which is true also in physics and electrical engineering. An open in any circuit, will stop anything electric from movement, thus stopping the current of electric. This is the same with energy..... Close the hole and we have current. Whalaaaa


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Aquarius
Posted 11/12/2007 8:56 AM (#2879 - in reply to #25)
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Dear Friend,

You are making some interesting comments! If you would like to investigate the matter a bit further, however, without having to get too deeply into all the technicalities, I recommend that you visit a website where you will find an item called ‘Be Your Own Astrologer’. Because we are not allowed to post anything like this here, I am sending you a link by private e-mail, which I hope you will enjoy. If anyone else is also interested in this, please contact me in the same way. With love – Aquarius

 



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mruppert
Posted 11/13/2007 1:30 AM (#2888 - in reply to #25)
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Hi all:
     I am insistent in the belief that astrology is a science, and not a made up, composite, solely interpretative field of endeavor. Read these words and notice the key word, repeated twice:
"Astrology can hit on ones tendency to over do it in certain area's andat certain times, so we can become aware of these tendancies during ourcalculated weak times. Even if it's all in the head, it somehow worksand gives us something to work with."
     "Tendency"  and "tendancies"(sp?)  are the ruling words, and I believe this to be true.
     That is why I particulary wanted to hear from Virgos, because no matter how different we might be by gender, race, distance and time, we WILL have certain "tendencies" as Doc put it, or "consistencies" as I put it, that significantly mark us as Virgos.
     The question becomes is this true by virtue of interpretation, or by the truth in the stars? Well, I am a historian, and I study things historical all the time, as it is my personal passion. I have studied many historical movements of time, and find that the "history" changes with the interpreter and the time it is being interpreted in. But, since I have an inclination towards metaphysics, I also look at history with another eye...a third eye, as one poster said.
     My conclusions are thus:
     Astrology is as perfectly valid now as it was then;
     The Metaphysians of times past knew this science;
     They left us a record of their studies;
     The stars impel, they do not compel.

Peace,
Marty, unknown sign cats Luckylee and Poppyhead, and Virgo cat SissyGirl
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Aquarius
Posted 11/13/2007 9:03 AM (#2894 - in reply to #25)
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It seems to me that far too many astrological myths to this day abound in our world. Let us spin this thread a bit further. I can tell you from my first hand experiences that such tales are not based on what astrology truly is about. To give you another example, Virgos are supposed to be neat and tidy people, whilst Librans – as already mentioned – are thought of as being well balanced. Yet, some of the most untidy people I have ever met were Virgos and some of the most wildly out of balance ones I know are Librans.  Such myths always did puzzle me. The explanation for them clearly lies in the fact that it is true for these two signs, the same as for all the others, that the gifts each sign can bestow upon those born into them will never fall into their laps. Rather they have to be developed and worked with, so that in the course of a whole lifetime they may be built into our character.

Each human soul is guided and protected, mostly probably against its own foolhardiness, by wise ones whose charge it is. They help the soul to choose a lifetime in the sign whose qualities it is most in need of developing. Either it does not yet have brought forth these qualities at all or if it did so insufficiently, another opportunity will be offered this time round.  For example, in Virgo the soul first becomes aware for the need of working tidily and meticulously. It gathers many experiences that help it to appreciate the idea of conducting one’s whole life in this manner. A soul who has not yet integrated this lesson may be advised to be born through someone who already is extremely neat and tidy. If you are the parent of a very untidy child, maybe even a Sun Virgo, be patient and do not allow your child’s behaviour to drive you round the bend, or the two of you apart.  As the child’s life progresses and through watching those around it, it is likely that it will eventually recognise the benefits of living in more orderly ways, which in the fullness of time they may wish to emulate.

None of the people I ever encountered behaved in accordance with what the textbooks say about their Sun sign. Looking back, I can honestly say that I have never met one typical Virgo or Libra or Leo or Sagittarius and so forth. The reason? There is no such thing as a typical Virgo, Libra or whatever! As mentioned many times during these files, each sign is a pathway that can help the soul to develop certain characteristics. The degree to which each individual soul succeeds varies greatly from person to person. That is hardly surprising because it depends on many factors. For starters, each soul is unique and in the course of many lifetimes has developed in a different way from every other one. Each has always had its own pathway to walk and its own experiences to gather, and therefore carries within the bowl of itself a different store of memories, on which it is now drawing. But then, isn’t that just what makes our world and the people in it so endlessly fascinating?

As we are here now, each one of us is likely to have been recycled many times round the wheel of life, whose symbol is the zodiac. Therefore, we also have passed through our particular Sun sign many times before, each time coping with its lessons with greater or lesser success. This lifetime is yet another opportunity for doing better. It is an extra special one because for many of us it brings the chance of – maybe the first time in the whole of our development thus far – consciously working on the improvement of our character. Each one of us is many-faceted jewels, precious and loved by our Divine parents. We are all here to become more whole – hence, being healed, more holy and at one with our Highest Self. Knowing those things helps me to keep my perspective on my own life, my place and role in it, as well as everybody else’s, in the Great Plan of all things.

With Love and Light,

Aquarius

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mruppert
Posted 11/13/2007 1:51 PM (#2895 - in reply to #25)
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Hi all:
     I think Aquarius has summed up the ideas and conjectures of this post in a very succinct manner. I am inspired by her words, as affirmation in what I believe.
     Practical example: I am Virgo and "tend" towards neatness, tidiness and order. Yet, I can run my finger along a "knick knack" shelf and draw a line in the dust that is there. I cannot "control" the dust, I wipe it off one day, and the next it is back more prominent than before. Does this bother me? Innately, it does, but I have learned by experience that there is nothing I can do about it, other than to become obsessed by it and allow that "tendency" to rule my life.
     Please also note that these "tendencies" are oftentimes encouraged moreso for certain people and people as a whole, by advertising that shills "concepts"  that really do absolutley nothing more or less than any other concept  or method. A wiping down with vinegar cleans my kitchen as much or better than Formula 409 or Lysol 4in1 do. But, I am told that both products "kill" germs and bacteria 150% more than comparable products, and probably 1000% better than I do. Perfect fodderal for a Virgo!
    If you read in your "daily" horoscope that you will have a crummy day, and believe it...then you will. You might sit stuck in traffic and be late for some very important appointment. But, thousands of others, of all signs are sitting stuck in the same traffic, some EXACTLY where you are and with just as important things to do as you have. That is the nonsense of astrology.
    But, Aquarius has pointed out that there is a "grand plan"...a concept that I, too, believe, but not with the tinge of fatalism that Aquarius might have.
    Oh, and by the way, "fatalism" by the word and sound, seems negative. But, it is not, not at all. It is simply a belief that says fate is not totally within our self willed control nor our ego, nor the superego. It is a belief that there is an overriding principle (for want of a better word) that serves as a path and provides a guide to something, someone, someplace. Fatalism is the keystone of religion, and as you might interpret, Aquarius is a deeply religious person.
     Though our paths will be remarkably different, Aquarius and I will meet on a higher plane, as we all will.
      The celebration of life force! And, then, we shall part to begin the journey again.

Peace and Universal Love,
Marty, and three cats amongst many.
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Aquarius
Posted 11/17/2007 12:08 PM (#2931 - in reply to #25)
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You are making some really interesting comments here; thank you for them, Marty. Most of them are spot on – but in two respects you could not be further off the mark! 1) you were saying that my approach to life is fatalistic. Far from it! To that I would say let us never forget that our tenderly loving Father/Mother Creator never trifles with any of us and does not want us to suffer unnecessarily and be unhappy! The pain and misery we had and still have to endure in the present were created by none other than us, not just during one lifetime, but many. Make no mistake about it, our character determines our destiny and what we do in the here and now, how we behave and what we create is of vital importance. It determines where we shall find ourselves in future lifetimes, what kind of encounters we shall have, which relationships we bring with us and which lessons are still to be integrated by us.

Everything that is in this life has purpose and meaning, including everybody’s suffering. It needs to be treated like a tool that has been given into our own hands, to help us become the master of our whole being and consequently of our destiny. Having reached the end of one large evolutionary cycle, it is up to each individual whether we happily reach out to any helping hand that offers itself, visible and invisible, or whether we reject them. Whatever our choice may be, God and the Angels work through and with each one of us; without them there would be no world – there would be none of us. Learn to trust them.

This leads us to the second concept where you could not be further off the mark, Marty. If believing in and working with God and the Angels creates the impression that I am a deeply religious person, you could not be more mistaken. Yes, I am deeply spiritual, but not religious – to me, there is a big difference between the two. In case you are then wondering where I stand spiritually towards the religious organisations of our world, including White Eagle, it may interest you to know that throughout this whole lifetime, I have been a free spirit.

Occasionally, I visit churches and other places of worship, and am not averse to taking part in their services; some of them can be most enjoyable. But, like any true child of the Aquarian Age, I refuse to be bound by anyone’s dogma or creed. I relish the freedom to follow my heart and the knowledge that this is the only place in the whole of Creation where all truth is known. I only believe that which my inner teacher tells me to be true, and that alone I am sharing with you in all my writings. As pointed out before, the perception of truth varies from person to person; therefore yours may well be different from mine. Wherever the two digress from each other, ask your inner teacher to show you what is right for you.

With Love and Light,

Aquarius

 

 

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mruppert
Posted 11/18/2007 3:52 AM (#2934 - in reply to #2931)
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Hi Waterbearer, and all:
     Hopefully, in what all have just read as this thread progresses, you will see the utter futility of words, since we cannot make them convey what is truly meant.
     Aqua..let me try this again....
"our tenderly loving Father/Mother Creator,"
....your words, are therefore fatalistic....as you believe that that is so. Suppose there is no creator? Suppose things just happen, and by the event, there arises a cosmic consciousness that is composed entirely because of the event? Beyond that, a "big bang" concept, or a "creationist" concept is fine, but I have to know what existed before??????
Secondly,
"that I am a deeply religious person, you could not be more mistaken. Yes, I am deeply spiritual, but not religious"
 Again, the lack of words to adequately express! The religious experience (as I have said many times) has absolutely nothing to do with religion. It is so far removed from religion, that those who have a "religious experience" must be signaled out somehow, the RC's call them saints.
    The "saints" were somehow spiritual people. Did they think of a name to give the spiritual state that they perceived and lived? Maybe so, maybe not. Most likely, they perceived something divine and did what they did in accordance with that vision. Just as you do, dear Aqua, just as you said.

Peace and Much Love,
Marty, and invisible SissyGirl; visible Luckylee & Poppyhead
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Aquarius
Posted 11/18/2007 8:51 AM (#2935 - in reply to #25)
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Thank you, dear Marty! You are right, words are so inadequate and we can but try to explain that which can only understood by the heart, don’t you think? Thanks for trying. To me, the word religious always has a by-taste of belonging to a certain religion. Let me explain a little bit what the notion of God means to me.

Where does one sensibly start an exploration of such magnitude? How about first of all asking ourselves the most fundamental question of all? And that surely has to be: ‘Is there a God? What do you think? After all that has happened and still is happening in our world, could there possibly be one? And should the answer be ‘yes’ and if our God is a loving one – as we are being told – why does He allow our world to be so full of pain, suffering, and inequalities?’ Great parts of humankind, to this day, have such a limited perception of the Eternal that they have difficulties grasping that there is a great deal between Heaven and Earth that still needs to be found out. I can merely speak for myself, but I would like to tell you: ‘Yes, I do not only believe but know that there is a God – to be more precise – a Creator; how could there be a Creation without a Creator?’ All answers to questions of a spiritual nature depend on one’s own perception and level of awareness; this especially applies to how and what we imagine God to be. Is it a being or is it the all-pervading energy that manifests itself in humankind as that which is good and right and holy; in the love we feel and the kindness we give to each other, without expecting anything in return? I believe the latter to be true, but each has to decide for themselves what the Divine means to them.

One thing is sure, as you and I shall soon find out together, our life and all life is something much more beautiful and profound, as well as a great deal less complicated than any of us could ever have thought possible. Where does one start to explain? Best of all probably through an affirmation that the core of all being, including humankind’s, is spirit. We are here to find a new understanding of ourselves and to re-discover that first and foremost we are spirit. Over many lifetimes, each one of us has learnt and grown through gathering their own experiences of life in physicality. Through this, each individual and also our world developed a soul. Our own soul is part of the soul of our world; this in turn is part of the soul of the whole of Creation. We shall return to the theme of soul later.

Moslem tradition tells us: ‘The world is a bridge; pass over it but do not build your house on it.’ It is believed that this wisdom came to our world through Christianity’s beloved and revered Master Jesus. Those were wise words indeed; no doubt they were spoken to remind us that our true home is elsewhere. Although we are presently walking around in physical bodies, we and everything that shares this life with us is on a pathway of evolution onto ever higher levels of consciousness. Life on Earth is a place of learning and a school of mysteries. In past ages, God has been considered to be its Great Mystery. But the unravelling of what and who we are, to me is the greater mystery by far. Not for nothing has it been said: ‘Children of Earth know yourselves, and you shall know God and the Universe.’  But before we can make any progress in our search, we first need to discover and unravel who and what we truly are. And what are we? Each one is a unique spark of the Great Light and a young God in the making; no more, no less.

 With Love and Light,

Aquarius

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Posted 11/21/2007 7:53 AM (#2980 - in reply to #2831)
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Hiya,
Hmm I have an opinion with regards to Astrology. It is a connection within our whole self to the universal self, astrology helps us in alot of ways. Such as physically, mentally and spiritually. So I see it as going hand in hand with science because it is physical proof of the metaphysical.
Okie hope you all have a good one,

Love and Light

mes
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Aquarius
Posted 11/21/2007 8:18 AM (#2982 - in reply to #25)
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You are putting forward some very good points of view, dear friend, but when you say that astrology is physical proof of the metaphysical, that is one that as an astrologer I cannot share with you. Naturally, I would not dream of wishing to categorically state that astrology is this, that or the other for everybody. All I can tell you is what it means to me and the way I use it. Astrology supplies me with the means of an esoteric understanding of the underlying principles of the physical presence of the planets in the sky above us. To me, it is a pathway for finding out how each one relates to the character of every individual soul and for revealing the potential we all have to develop and change it. This to my mind is of the greatest importance because through consciously working on and changing our character, it is possible to influence not only our individual destiny, but also that of the collective.

 

With Love and Light,

Aquarius

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Posted 11/21/2007 8:01 PM (#2985 - in reply to #2982)
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Absolutely Aquarius I tautoko (encourage, support) this and share your opinion as well. They the planets and alignments help to activate ourselves. And as you mentioned it is but one of many pathways to help develop or understand our growth. Collective absolutely when I like you share Light it is for the whole and I have no barriers or prejudices, otherwise it would not be from my Devine Self.
Thankyou friend,

Much Love and Light,

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mruppert
Posted 11/25/2007 12:15 AM (#3010 - in reply to #25)
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Hi all:
     Aquarius, your post of 11/18 was eloquent indeed! Your post of 11/21 was, for me, a bit confusing. It is your use of "esoteric" that does this.
     The knowledge advanced by Kepler,Newton and Galilei, even as far back as Aristarchus, places things where they should be. Without the science...the sun would still be pulled by chariots across the sky. The earth would be the center of the universe. The constellations would still bear their names, but the positions of the planets would be totally different as they would have to be based on point of reference in an earthcentric system.
     I know that it is difficult to think with the mind of one who lived in the past, but that is what true historians try, as feebly as they might. The historical evidence suggests that astrology and science, the very same science practiced by the above mentioned persons, work hand in hand, and the knowledge gained, included (not precluded) one and the other.
     Was astrology to become hermetic? Esoteric? Even, heretical?  Well, again, the historical evidence clearly shows the answer to be yes. Though some of the men named above were religious (i.e. spiritual) people; it was an organized, hierachical, entity  (religion)  that sought to suppress the knowledge and the wisdom that might be gained, in favor of the rigidity of belief.
     The men who did this sought for us to see the "light" but they shuttered the very light that we were destined to see.

Peace and lux,
Marty and Copernican Cats
P.S. Also, Aq...you gotta elaborate on "what" was created, from what? If a creator created, where did the creator create from?
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Posted 11/26/2007 1:31 PM (#3023 - in reply to #25)
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You are raising some highly interesting points here, Marty! Because I am very busy with other things, it’ll take me a few days to respond to them – but I shall do so with relish! For now you've got to make do with love – Aquarius

 

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Posted 12/17/2007 11:59 PM (#3236 - in reply to #25)
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Hi all, in realus Lyon and Aqua:
     In what I said, the men I mentioned studied, lived and in some cases, died for. The Rosicrucians know this, as they (we) have been persecuted for the knowledge throughout history.....mistakenly identified as in allegiance with "The Masons" but that is wrong and another story.
     Quite rightly identified as alchemists, but that is also another story as "alchemy" was not thought of as it is judged to be today.
      No matter, as astrology, in my view, is and always will be a science, and one that we can seek to understand, if only we have the knowledge; much of which has been lost to us.

peace 'n understanding,
Marty and Ring-a-round the rosie cats!
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Posted 12/18/2007 8:51 AM (#3244 - in reply to #25)
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Dear Lyonna – if you understood that I was saying somewhere that the ascendant and the Moon sign are fixed, then we must have a crossed wire somewhere. Where please, did I say it? Please, let me know so that I can express what I mean more clearly. Of course we have freedom of choice and it is up to us how we behave, whether we are a Sun, Moon, ascendant Scorpio or any other sign for that matter. With love – Aquarius  

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Posted 12/18/2007 9:18 AM (#3246 - in reply to #25)
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Hi Aqua:
"Of course we have freedomof choice and it is up to us how we behave, whether we are a Sun, Moon,ascendant Scorpio or any other sign for that matter".  
    This is not always the case, and sometimes never. There are times when there is no freedom of choice, there is only the question of primal thinking...fight or flight. You have to make that choice in a split second, because if you delay, then there is only one thing....and that is fight. The timing is so intricate, and the results so telling!

Peace n Love,
Marty and Warring Cats, but I shall be the peacemaker!

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Posted 12/19/2007 1:33 PM (#3264 - in reply to #3246)
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Dear Marty - trust you to think of that!!! With love - Aquarius
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Posted 1/4/2008 11:23 PM (#3379 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology


i am born on teh 20th May 91, in the Southern Hermisphere which means thats its hard to know what is correct, if i am a true taurus, or if i am on the cusp... any help would be lovely.. as i love astrology and speaking to someone who knows there stuff

thanks
jordie
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Aquarius
Posted 1/5/2008 9:10 AM (#3380 - in reply to #25)
Subject: RE: Astrology



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Dear Fellow Worker - please, send me your birth details by private e-mail and I shall look into it for you. I need your date of birth, time of birth - as exact as possible - and your place of birth; your name in real life would be helpful but is not really necessary. As mentioned a few times before, I am not looking for business and I no longer do birthchart interpretations, because I cannot make the time available for them. With love - Aquarius
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