Posted 8/6/2008 3:43 AM (#8596) Subject: flown the nest
it would seem everyone has flown the nest,and gone to pastures new,once,a long time ago (in bethlehem)so the holy bible says.....this board was ahive of activity,frienship,warmth,spiritual,funny.sad,etc,that was what i would call the good old days,when true spirit was at work,even the arguments were interestin,to a point,the wole gammet of emotions are necessary,to evolve,so on,so forth.Then i noticed,as time passed.as it does.that things were slowly,maybe quickly changing,people.or whatever..,more so apparently when the master star relocated,ressurected itself in a new location,where the world,apparently,can join in,and listen and learn,and post ,and become members,and log,on,and on,and on,(WHERE THAT GO THEN) there became so much lack of spirit,even from from the so called hierarchy.Doubt crept in,people suspecting each other,watching what we posted for fear of being hurtful,innuendos,subltle hints,codes,disguised,ahhh,the fun of it,running and chasing,seeking,trying to find,bit like a miss marples whodunnit,maybe more should look in the mirror,and then the may truly connect,with thier real self,unless ulterior motives prevented.And alass alack,i was one of those too,caught up in a web of suspicion,still am,but as once it would have bothered me,now it dissapates,blown away,other more important,true peoples lives,concern me,like real people,you can touch,and see,and look in their eyes,thrats where the truth lies,windows of the soul.I enjoyed best when there where innocent laughter,true spirtitual meanings,questions askedked to test the soul,spirit,the essence of who WE really are.In a strange way,i enjoyed our last debarcle,where arguments abounded,where anger reared its ugly,or kind head,at least.the,although we were arguing,being seriously sarcatic,etc,it was alive ,flowing,some jumour,as there always is,in adversity,then the calm,the coming together,the reflections,the peace,the love.Who cares where,or whom,or how or why,not the important thing,the thing was ,it brought some of us together again,we said said,sorry,the hardest wordwe were as one again,al that in itself,was like a marrriage of today,of two people,joined together,for better or worse,for richer for poorer,in sickness and in health(i,ll leave out the till death do us part)as we know that not to be so,so the wedding in the forest,the umslingo tribe,the laughter the fun,etc,even the universe joined in,,,,that was a marriage of souls coming together,spirits children having fun,so on,(as i type this,words keep mystreiuosly disappearing)so what,take what you want,need,i shall now lie down,maybe,and reflect,maybe,i may (if the powers of the human hand,don,t freeze this)come back,in one,five ten minutes,maybe fifteen,and reflect,talk,again,i may not,who knows,who cares,i don,t.But i still say,intuition is a wonderful thing,love the word serendipity,am curious about the number 7 in life,i love the four seasons,everything comes in 3,s,colour,and its true meaning,its true properties,and so on.I am me,who are you....
Posted 8/6/2008 3:33 PM (#8652 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Location: West Texas
the thread was filled with your soul sunflower. i could see you in it. you should be you with out care, so you can be forever joined with God. i shall be me so we can be forever joined as friends as God.
Posted 8/6/2008 4:02 PM (#8654 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
touching and mysterious. I am still sifting for all the meaning...perhaps I am not to know it. That's OK too. Still Sunflower, I am drawn to your writing, even though I don't always understand all of it. That's the magic...
Posted 8/7/2008 2:13 PM (#8763 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Sunbonnet....I am right there, behind your left shoulder, but I am quick for my age, when you turn I will be hiding, you'll only catch a glimpse. And I travel with cats......but they are far more quicker than I am.......you will only see them if they want you to! Some people never see them...they dematerialize. But, they are here now, with me, as they should be.............
Peace and Squidges, Muppet and Mystical Cats, the Luck. the Popp, and the SissssssssssssssssssssssssyGirl
Posted 8/7/2008 5:30 PM (#8775 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Oh Tracy..I hear you...because feeling invisible can be caused by really attempting to passionately share with others, then to not be acknowledged..can make one feel as if it is a futile effort...my personal opinion-
yet I think it is only a fractional percentage of the time that certain people do not respond to others intentionally...also certainly perceptions of other's comments are huge...so many factors are to be taken into consideration...people's moods on any given day, general outlooks, so many threads becoming out of focus...
Certainly different backgrounds come in to play, people have different manners of speech and communication...yet for me, that's half the fun..
I want to thank you for your steady, rational, kind, gentle and healing vibe...and also thanks for pulling together the UK Astral Adventure! See you there! Cheerio!
Posted 8/7/2008 6:18 PM (#8784 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
"I feel giddy, I want to dance, I want to hide in a closet, I crack up! I want to cry!" Always feel giddy and witty and light. Dance all the time, waltz in the dining room, cha cha in the kitchen, tango in the bedroom! Hide in a box.....like my kitties....you can't find me (with a tail sticking out). Crack up....you gotta break eggs to make an omelette, but it tastes oh so good! And cry you eyes out, did you ever notice that after a good hard cry, you wind up laughing?
p&l, Marty and Hideycats, no peekie.....Luck, Popp and Siss
Posted 8/8/2008 6:08 AM (#8827 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
after much searching,in the quest to find TRUE spirit,and like minded souls,i have spent many earth hours here reading what all have to say.It seems to me that there are two separate camps,locked in their own battle,nothing to do with spirit divine,more human ego,and whom shall have what,and and which camp is the best.None ,i say,for if you cannot join together as oneand carry out your claim,which soul purpose is the path towards the light,purpose,spiritual knowlege,helping those who are lost,though i feel many on here are so lost,they may never find themselves,and some are so earthly found,they are rich in the knowledge of deceit.Whom,i wonder,is the real founder of such a divided we fall,together we stand.Now,so as not to waste energies,the short time we are granted to find our path,the need to be true to our own spirit,to give it the justice and respect it deserves,not to listen,or look at words,that have no meaning,empty,no lesson,no learning.I have decided,from asking THE only one who holds the truth,to listen,and be guided by that voice.Not even a fond farewell is needed from me,i offer none,i do offer my love,healing,for mind,body,spirit soul,i love me,my spirit,my heart,my truth,taught me by the light.I will carry on walking the divine paths of the forest,i will visit the seas,to absorb the healing of both,i will always love that which is free,not caged,nor destoyed by man/womans greed,and ego,as above,so below.
Posted 8/8/2008 1:46 PM (#8831 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
To be truthful to you Iris, and myself..I must confess that I have attempted and deleted several versions of this post. I want nothing more than to be loving, accepting and kind and true, driven by the purity of my connection with my Higher/God/Self in my response to your recent post(s), yet found my words to be disarming, despite my highest intentions and in the light of greater Good... a description that is often attributed to me, Lori, in my face to face relationships...I am an entity that accepted a human role-complete with flaws as well as emotions and passion, as are you. I, The Sagittarian philosopher who comes equipped with her arrow, ready to aim and pull for the greater good, the grandest Truth. I put this "out here" for a few more reasons, sweet one; I respond to you in a public forum because you chose to "put it out there" publicly, and also in case you choose to not log on as you have implied-to read any private posts to you...and so we perhaps may all learn and grow from this...so again, I will reach out...putting myself at personal risk of being disarming and of possible persecution...in honor of the Sake:
Iris, we all have fears. We are all vulnerable here. You are not alone. The only difference, I believe, is the level of personal self worth and esteem with which we are working, as well as our pasts, etc...meaning all that has shaped us into who we are....and where we are on our Paths....which lends itself to the various levels of subliminal and non-conscious, or perhaps on occasion, conscious manipulation. I have also read and re read many if not all of the posts here, and I hang my head when I tell you I am completely stumped. All I read here in posts are people trying to hold you up, to promote your inclusiveness, to stroke you and show you love, remind you of your "place" here, write you poetry of comfort so perhaps you can see a glimpse of the beauty and authenticity that is You, with no response, no acknowledgement...only innuendo that for some reason you are being plotted against...perhaps I am magnifying my obvious ignorance...yet also, perhaps, this is a lesson for me about personal boundaries and limitations....and if indeed that is the lesson in all this, for myself and or anyone, then I deeply thank you.
I believe we all have the capacity to create scenarios in our imaginations - in order to justify them in whatever way we need to. I see this post as caring, loving, hopefully clarifying. ...what I rather lamely refer to is this, in a nutshell... ...is that you have the choice to either receive this as another message of love, or to not....because the biggest lesson here is that perception is everything, and disillusionment can become beautiful illusion, depending on your personal mind set.
I from the core of my being wish you clarity, peace, joy and love, wherever you need to find it.
Love you always
Posted 8/8/2008 2:09 PM (#8834 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
hmmm. I am happy to know all of you dear folk. I certainly appreciate the similarities. and yet I celebrate the differences. They helps me grow. It challenges my own thinking and my past and current way of being.
Words are words. It is sometimes difficult to discern what exactly a person means or is trying to describe via the WWW. Spirit is true...and we are all from the same spirit. Sometimes we are trapped in the mundane and other times in the etheric. this is apparent in some of the writing on the board. When we move and flow with the rhythms of our Life is when we realize and recognize the nature of one another as spirit, as essence, as the loving beings that we are and are seeking. I see it here in many threads. It makes me happy.
Let us not despair if others are moving to a different rhythm than ourselves at any particular moment. There is only one journey, many currents. Let's enjoy the ride together.
Posted 8/8/2008 2:54 PM (#8846 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Location: NE Ohio
Hello all, I see people come and go in all forums and groups..... it's a cycle of life. For we all have a purpose, whether it is a reason, season or lifetime. Let those who want to go.... go with a glow..... maybe just because they were at least touched by someone here. Or go with the flow, because something else nudged them in a different direction. It is still all good.
We ARE human, and spirit.... So, until I die, I HAVE NO CHOICE but to be trapped with in my own shell of flesh and blood. Sometimes we can take a mental leave of absense, but to type here, I must use my physical existance. At which I will make errors too. Bummer.... but it happens. To error is human. No big deal as long as lesson is learned and not repeated over and over. Sometimes I see people on the road that never learn from their mistakes all the time, it is the downfall of humans. Such a shame.... But perhaps they will learn in another lifetime. Maybe there is a reason for that too. It's not for me to ever judge.... One will judge themself.
My physical existance lately has been quite painful... i have withdrawn from many social places, both on-line and in person. I am doing everything I can to snap out of it and come back, but perhaps I am not ready. My mood will be the decider.... Maybe I just need to wrestle.
I personally cannot act -all God, because I am also part human too. So I embrace them both, for it's only temporary that we get to do so.... unless we choose to do it again. Free will is a blessing~ Everyone must also fly on their own at one point or another. A follower, will become a leader... and so on, etc. I just hope that while here, we all can merge to light a brighter life.... My light is always shining towards you all, in hopes that your day is a little brighter.
Posted 8/8/2008 3:23 PM (#8850 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
There is such beauty in the truths you all speak..where the lack of negativity lives, and all are held in the Goblet of respect, with love and light...where we all accept our humanistic Ego selves and that of others as a part of our gig here in this life and others...where we all have good and pure intent, where we all exercise healthy boundaries while there is tolerance and acceptance and compassion for those whose paths we cross.
Posted 8/8/2008 3:25 PM (#8851 - in reply to #8715) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Location: West Texas
of course i will accept my friend. i have been spending alot of time awayfrom myself listning to the voices of the universe. i know i hear your voice. it is the quietest but the most understood. with love, jerry
Posted 8/8/2008 3:44 PM (#8854 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
I want to second Jill's commetns about being human...we are part of this mortal coil, whether we like it or not.
I myself necessarily am required to be grounded most of the time. I must ensure the security, safety and well-being, BODY and soul of my family. It may mean that I appear flip or superficial. (and, I assure that thisis not ALL of who I am) It is by-product of being hyper-vigilant within my environment. (besides my thighs are taking a beating! teasing of course...referencing an earlier post) I comment on my experience in the moment. That is about as true as it gets. This is simply where I am at this time in my life. I am not going to apologize for it. It is best to accept it and I have. Likewise, I choose to accept others just as they are and where they are on the Path. If this appears too simplistic, oh well. You have the choice to accept it or not. *smile*
Love, kindness, strength, and purpose.
P.S. I am a Taurus sun with Sagitarius moon, gemini rising. I am also a 9 in numerology and am in a 2 year, if this helps...Born year of the dog...I should hope I appear grounded... Just following my birth patterns...
Posted 8/8/2008 3:59 PM (#8857 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Location: NE Ohio
LOL, so true....
Just a side note... I am LEO, the lion king..... with birth moon sign in Sag, which makes me a double fire. I can be very hot headed, but as I age, I calmly just want to enjoy this throne.
I cannot help but to embrace all the good, the royalties, and love my kingdom as I watch it grow (my family). I am the protector.... the guard. I will jump out immediately to protect absolutely anyone, who is being battered, or in pain.
Right now, It's LEO season, so I am in my prime time. Had it not been for the death of my father, I would be on top of a mountain, screaming to the world, just how lucky we all really are. Now I have a quest, to spread the ashes of my father, on top his favorate mountain. So it shall be done. Off I will go..... (when I have funds for travel). lol
Until then.... stand tall, protect your own, love what you ARE!
Posted 8/9/2008 9:13 AM (#8902 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Location: United Kingdom
I have read and re-read the original post and replies many times, but I must confess, i still cannot think of what to say, as there is so much here. But i at last wanted to acknowledge my own confusion and perplexity; but cannot resonate with the feeling of different 'sides'.
I am mainly struck & wish to emphasize by what a potential for the positive & good is this on-line community of ours x
Posted 8/10/2008 12:16 PM (#8925 - in reply to #8831) Subject: RE: flown the nest
lori,what a lovely soul you are,i agree with all you say,and take it all in,you are so right,okay,i will away for now,i am having some amazing experiences,i extend my love to you,and yours.Iam a leo/virgo,with taurus rising,on the cusp,as they say.luv,irisx
Posted 8/11/2008 1:50 AM (#8946 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Location: NE Ohio
I see many strong people here. Where one cannot contribute, another one can. Taking turns is such a valuable thing, it lets everyone speak and be heard. Then with many different viewpoints, a conclusion is drawn, always with intent of best outcome.
We have a very good bunch of souls here.... the energy flows well.
Posted 8/11/2008 10:19 AM (#8977 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Location: NE Ohio
Geesh, an Aquarian, with moon in his opposite. At least you have the grounds covered quite well. I nearly did.... but just missed being exactly opposite of you Paul. Just a couple more days, and I would have hit moon in Aquarius.
Posted 8/13/2008 12:34 AM (#9065 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Hi all: I know I miss a lot in life.......much that I should......but, I must ask, who is Jerry? And, Sunnneee, why were you upset?
""Doubt crept in,people suspecting each other,watching what we postedfor fear of being hurtful,innuendos,subltlehints,codes,disguised,ahhh,the fun of it,running andchasing,seeking,trying to find,bit like a miss marples whodunnit,maybemore should look in the mirror,and then the may truly connect,withthier real self,unless ulterior motives prevented.And alass alack,i wasone of those too,caught up in a web of suspicion,still am,but as onceit would have bothered me,now it dissapates,blown away"" -lifted from Sunpost
I don't honestly know what you are saying. If you are saying that certain people "like" certain other people, well, that is true for me ...but me alone....as I cannot speak for anyone else. There are a few people that I share so many things with, that there is a natural affinity of spirit between us. BUT, this does not mean that there is an "exclusivity"; in other words, this does not mean that we have a "clique", "a gang", "a chosen few", "a cognescenti". Sunny, you should know that I have never been politically correct for this venue nor pandered to the "majority rule" ideas. My view of "healing" is probably the most unpopular as I believe it to be totally exclusive.....granted to those by virtue of genetic background. You should know that I have constantly stated that anyone who has taken a course, listened to tapes, gone to seminars, watched cds/dvds, gone online in open conferences, or whatever, AND paid money for it, has MOST LIKELY been duped...BECAUSE that is precisley what my now dissapated group has studied for years......we bought them all!!!!!!!!!!! We know. However, there are a few (and very few) people that can heal. That is real! So real, that I stake my life on it being true. These are special people. Forget about your Richard Bartlett's, et al on YouTube.....look at the dude they call Dynamo Jack.....see if your energetic healers can set the newspaper on fire......they can't.....HE CAN! As my last member of the beloved Research Group can heal....she says it is REIKI and Matrix Energetics and Quantum Touch that allows her to do it.....I say that is nonsense. She can do it because she was born and raised in Romania, and her mother and auntie were healers.....using cabbages and straw and other symbols to mask the truth of their and her power.......the power to harness and direct energy to change the body in time....to make one who is ill go back to a time when one was well and whole...and to manifest that now! That is what they do, Sunny, that is what they do!!!!
I know no one agrees with me, but that is why I keep coming back here; because no one agrees with me....and perhaps, that is why I like it so much here. I hope you do, too!
Peace and Timefull Love, Marty and Luckychime, Poppytick, and Sissytock
Posted 8/13/2008 4:11 AM (#9073 - in reply to #9065) Subject: RE: flown the nest
strange,but not,let me c,now jerry is the one who played with tom,i liked jerry best,so beutiful.Who said i was upset,i can,t see tears on my face,i keep that for the people who truly hurt. i like some people,but i trulyLOVE others.Lordy,Lordy Lordy,so releived you explained that word(hang on,i just got to look back,and get right spelling!)"exclusivity",could have misundestood,and felt excluded from everything,but,you said it in three,golly gosh n,all,us brits,me welsh,duh,what an enigma.Now,the paragragh starting "my view of "healing"i agree with,till you get to "nonsense",its that little bit after that i need spelling out in british terms,strange thing is i agree,but i don,t know why,have to think bout that one maybe,perhaps,not,will. Oh no,no,i just ageed with you,something wrong here,must be the time of day,oh well,mind never,love chicken soup,my grandma used to make it for e when i was but young,she passed the recipe on to me,she,s gone home now,"LOVE YOU GRANDMA",oh well,gotta go,even though i like it so much here,time flies,etc.lovenall,irisx
Posted 8/13/2008 4:40 AM (#9074 - in reply to #9073) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Location: United Kingdom
'lovenall' reminds me of how they score in tennis - so calm and peaceful - 'love-40' etc ...unlike other rough games ... and the players are all so gentle-personally chivalrous ... and tom and jerry always seem to love each other underneath their vicissitudes (ops, sorry, 'troubles') ... not sure what i am saying, just a few random associations evoked by these last posts (and by 'last post' I do not mean the final bugle call of life) .. chicken soup when I was growing up was out of a tin, though my late grandma preferred cream of tomato (and I do not mean she was always 'late', I mean she has passed on into the Other Realms, rest her soul; she had a troubled life) xx
Posted 8/14/2008 1:06 AM (#9135 - in reply to #9073) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Sunny....if you would like, and can, I would love to read what you have to say in Welsh....I can speak and read it somewhat but am very poor in writing....too many consonents and not enough vowels, for Americal and Brital tastes.....egad.....I am using Bristolian things...the al's on the end of words....Asda is Asda....it is NOT Asdal, unless you are in Bristol. You must know from reading through posts of the past, that I have always wanted to study and teach at UWales Lampeter, as that is the only place that has a discipline of "Religious Experience", teaching much the same courses as are offered by UMS, but with academic credentials. I have conversed with Dr. Wendy Docett, whose speciality is Janeism, and is the head of the programme. Unfortunately, I cannot cross the pond, as my dollar is only worth half your quid. Nor can I do it via correspondence, since my dollar is still worth half your pound. And, via correspondence, I would not get the taste and flavor of being in Lampeter, which (to me and many) is a mystical place. Should Dame Fortune smile on me, as she will, I am there in Lampeter in a heart beat. But I have several things to do on the journey. I shall visit my long lasting and beloved research associate, as she is a "true healer"...imagine a face-to-face after all these years! I shall visit Dr. Elizabeth Diamond, a renowned graduate of UMS, and quite the successful businesswoman....doing great work in all things spiritual! Damn it though, the Pier burnt down at Weston!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, maybe Sunny, I shall pass by you on the street somewhere, and you will know that this is not a dreamworld, but a reality.
Peace and Paws, Mr Muppet and Shadow Cats, Lucky, Poppy and Sissy
Posted 8/14/2008 1:19 AM (#9137 - in reply to #9116) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Location: No I'm not impersonating a cat! I'm a laughing Owl
I kept wondering, "who is this Jerry everyone is speaking of", then I read Pauls post about "Tom and Jerry" ....so it's the mouse?
Well, all I know is when I saw that beautiful picture of Cheese that T shared with us all...I just sat here and gazed and thought of a time when I wasn't "lactose intollerant"...those were the days....
Now it's strictly Goat and Sheep milk, cheese etc. But cheese is another one of those great products that make fabulous meals.
Posted 8/14/2008 3:33 AM (#9143 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Hi Feathers, ah huh....Jerry is the mouse! My cats would run away from Jerry. They just simply would not know what to do and would be afraid. They are used to eating and sleeping, and playing their cat games. Were I to put them outside, they would last a very few days. We, on the otherhand, know full well how to kill, and we do it with reckless abandon. We do it because it is in our nature...no teaching is required.
Peace and luv, Marty and Fraidycats, Luck, Popp, and SissyGirl
Posted 8/14/2008 7:22 PM (#9192 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Location: NE Ohio
We had to burry our pet Milton, who was a tiny furry friend who lasted much longer than the average hamster. Surely he is missed now, but we sure loved having him around. Seeing these pictures make me smile, in loving memory.
Posted 8/15/2008 1:12 PM (#9244 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
You know, P...that is so true! Cartoon characters are created by humans, with souls and living breathing personalities! I have this discussion often with my husband re: his scientific viewpoints and research on nanotechnology and primarily, R o b o t s! Personally, they freak me out. I am also a person who has never watched the entire Wizard of Oz movie because it scares me. Going to the circus? Forget about it! My point is, I feel that the creation of false entities ( robots, cartoon characters, avatars on public chat sites )can perhaps be attributed to the people who gave birth to them-in the way that these people are unable to feel the emotions on a human level, hence they transfer these emotions onto their creations!
I really feel creeped out even thinking about it!! Perhaps I was tortured by a robot dressed like a clown walking down the yellow brick road with Dorothy eating cheese with Tom and Jerry in a past life!?
Posted 8/15/2008 11:21 PM (#9276 - in reply to #8596) Subject: RE: flown the nest
One of these days, get some old Popeye cartoons and really pay attention to what he mumbles.....some of it is quite racy.....particulary when he is with Olyve Oyl......most embarraskink, well blow me down! "I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam; Strong to the finich cos I eats me Spinich, Oimn Popeye the Sailor Man!"
Marty and Poopye, Peepeye and the dumb Sissy, who doesn't get it!
Posted 8/17/2008 3:13 PM (#9336 - in reply to #9329) Subject: RE: flown the nest
Location: United Kingdom
Sorry Lori, Lorria, Mines of Moria (Lord of the Rings!) ... my enigmaticism strikes again ... I only meant, not being an expert, that some years back I heard that the idea that spinach was the healthiest green arose from a decimal point error, eg, not sure of the fact, but something like, a researcher identifying it had 2 % iron, instead of 0.2% ...
but now, hey, that broccoli appears to be a cancer buster, who really knows?
Sir Gawain and the Green Knight (wow, good story), Santa Claus, etc. xx