I really want to go here
jaxemma
Posted 7/27/2008 10:54 PM (#7858)
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I feel very drawn to this school. I have some questions that would validate my feelings that this could be the right school for me.
I am a believer of Co-Creation, Manifestation, and that we are all creating our own realities. How would a school like this and I mesh together? Is this an underlying theme of metaphysics?
Is the PHD something that although its not from a 'accredited' school would be respected?
How many people graduate from here and do what they love??
Thank you for answering in advance!
Namaste
Jacqueline
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Supernatural3
Posted 7/28/2008 1:43 AM (#7870 - in reply to #7858)
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I also feel we create our own world how we want and have more control than we think. At least when it comes to spirituality and religion. After studying here, I decided to use my own belief system and I named it Jillithism. LOL or Jillism. As many people on earth, is how many different religions we can have. You already have all the knowledge inside, we at UMS just help aid in bringing it to the surface.

I am a graduate, and I do what I LOVE as a business too. I chose Hypnotherapy, which I can still use many of my UMS studies for. As well as writing. My PhD may not be accredited, but it means the world to me. It counts in the eyes of God. I don't care about politics of it, i guess. I thought i did, but I was happiest while pursuing a full spiritual life.

When I found i loved the hypnosis courses here, i pursued advanced training in it. I loved every minute.

I guess you are the only one that can answer that, however, some of the classes offered give you many idea's for a better way of life, as well as career. I plan on writing another dissertation for my DD with this college.

Welcome, and go with your inner feelings, they won't let you down.
Blessings~
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mruppert
Posted 7/28/2008 2:33 AM (#7872 - in reply to #7858)
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"I feel very drawn to this school"
Hi Jaxie:
     DocJ, in her own way, is very academic. She has learned a lot, done a lot, and continues her education, in a lifelong path of enlightenment.
      Should you seek something to put on a resume, this is not what you want....I am very blunt about that.....but your words that I quoted gives me the sense that you are really, truly, looking for something else other than a resume enhancer.
       In that respect, if you are seeking a greater understanding of the internal power that resides in you, and seek avenues to express that power, then this might just be the place for you!
       Your own words say your destiny, so welcome......to a bunch of truly crazy metaphysicians.......and may you be happy and fulfilled!!!!
Peace and Love,
Marty and Preternatural Cats, Luckylee, Poppyhead and Sissygirl
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jaxemma
Posted 7/28/2008 11:06 AM (#7879 - in reply to #7858)
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Thank you both,
I am not looking for a resume enhancer by any means, but I am looking for a sustainable future.
Truthfully if I go to this school, and graduate, I doubt I would be sending out resume's in the first place. I would think their could be many ways to utilize a degree like this to the fullest. Even though the degree isn't accredited, do you find that it is 'respected'?

Also the payment plan is incrdible, and not to sound suspicious, but why it the tuition so affordable?

Thank you for answering my questions so quickly!
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mruppert
Posted 7/28/2008 12:24 PM (#7880 - in reply to #7858)
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Hello Jaxsonville:
     Some people are on line at the "right" time....I am sure you are going to get many more responses. Thus, the nature of serendipity.
     I don't know why the tuition is the way that it is....very affordable  for what you get.....but what you get is what you are truly willing to put in. You could potentially walk away with nothing of practical, tangible value; then again, you could emerge with  knowledge and power that is far greater than what you had before.
      I'd like to think that Ms. Breeze founded this for an altruistic reason. But, I (probably moreso than many others) know the operating costs, even for the privilege of typing these words right now. What Ms. Breeze does not know, (and how could she?) is that when I have oodles of money, I will fund UMS so that it operates in perpetuity.
       Why? I have great loves in life...books, cats, travel (to understand that no matter how "foreign" a people or culture is, we are all brothers and sisters, and must love one another), and Metaphysics ( to know that there is meaning and purpose for what we do here and now, and that it is a significant  exercise in the vast continuum ).
        Since you are drawn to this place in space and time, and you "really want",  then your path is clear. The very least you will get is to commune with like minded people, though sometimes not agreeable. The most you will get is limited only by your imagination. No one can know what you will do, except YOU!

Peace and Love,
Marty and Sunbathing Cats, Luckylee, Poppyhead, and SissyGirl
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jaxemma
Posted 7/28/2008 3:15 PM (#7885 - in reply to #7858)
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Marty,
Wonderful answer,
and just like life you get out of it what you want to. Pure and True.
O.k. how about some technical questions about the school?!
Do you work with teachers on a personal level as well, and do teachers grade your coursework?
Do you get a admissions councelor or anything to help you figure out exactly what your passion is?
O.k. There is a few!
Thank you!
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Posted 7/28/2008 5:02 PM (#7891 - in reply to #7885)
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Jaxie, that id that UMS gave to me may imply that I am an active student of UMS. I am not!
I found UMS because our students often mistype USM!!!
I am associated with USM, The University System of Maryland, and I work at UMUC, the University of Maryland University College. Our school, one of thirteen, eleven of which grant degrees, two of which are research institutes, are fully accredited. Our flagship institution, UM-College Park, is known throughout the USA, as we have got the football team and basketball team...the whole nine yards! UMUC, where I am, specializes in distance education. We are an online, 24/7/365 branch of learning. And, we would LOVE to have you as a student. We have open enrollment, you just need to maintain a B or above in your course work, since we do not use SAT, or Millers as an enrollment criteria, unlike our sister institutions, that require a certain score for admission. BUT, and this is a big BUT, you will NOT find the coursework that is offered by UMS. Nor will you find what UMS offers at any traditional university. Duke University used to do it, but they stopped. Why? Because the Board of Trustees did not want the university associated with a bunch of "crazies." Their words, not mine.
     I can tell that you are very thoughtful before making a decision. Perhaps you are a Virgo? Talk with a lady named Tracy Martin, she can tell you the answers to your questions as best as anyone. And, you can place full trust in her words, as she is blatantly honest.
      You have come this far on your path.....don't walk away...explore all that is there...but we all must choose what road we shall go down.

Peace and Love,
Marty and Familiars, Lucky, Poppy and Sissy


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jaxemma
Posted 7/28/2008 7:33 PM (#7903 - in reply to #7858)
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Thank you Marty,
I am looking up USM right now.
I appreciate your advice. What degree from University of Maryland would be the closest thing to what I am looking for here?
Thanks, I am open to everything!
Jax
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/29/2008 9:07 AM (#7921 - in reply to #7885)
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Dear Jaxemma

There is limited direct and personal support from UMS, certainly early on, I found, which i assume(d) is 'cos they are busy, and the courses are quite individually intense ... later on, doing the dissertations, Masters, then Doctoral, there is more inter-relating, that said however, I always got a personal response to any e-mails I sent in, all the way along and always found the staff helpful and friendly, even after completing the full programme(s) ... i remain very grateful to UMS & everyone, and find the Board a nice way to keep some contact.... and it is good value ... I did the programme as a mans of assisting my opening up to the universe (sorry, sounds pompous, not meant to), and it has ...
ps, there is also indvidual feedback on the meditations x
late reply to you as this week has been and remains really busy, so gotta log-off now ! All the best
Paul

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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/29/2008 10:09 AM (#7923 - in reply to #7921)
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Sorry Jaxemma; i re-read my response and just needed to refine it a little ... what i meant to say is that you are not allocated a 'personal tutor', early on, - that's how we describe a one to one support/study/admissions tutor here in the UK; however e-mails are always responded to, and as i said, personal feedback is given on the meditations.
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jaxemma
Posted 7/29/2008 10:51 AM (#7926 - in reply to #7858)
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Thank you Paul for answering!
I have emailed the school directly with some questions and I am waiting for a response and then I will most likely be enrolling.
I have one more crazy question for anyone who wants to answer!
Is their any study of Quantum Physics at this school?
Thank you!
Jax
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/29/2008 10:54 AM (#7927 - in reply to #7923)
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Dear Jaxemma - I see you are online ... you can see on another part of the UMS site student mini-biographies , in case you hadn't found that bit yet !
Good choosing !
Paul
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/29/2008 10:59 AM (#7928 - in reply to #7926)
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Hmmm ... cannot recall anything directly, except in the Colours & Vibrational Healing courses, I seem to remember references to the findings of modern physics as to how everything is vibration, everything is fundamentally light and thus, totally inter-connected.

I have my couses mostly at work, so cannot check their content for you as i am not there at this second.

You can see the syllabus on the 'courses' part of the site ... , required and elective. If you were interested in Q-p, and the relation to M-p, the Master's, DD and PhD each have self-designed research/thesis elements where you can choose your own topic so long as it is a metaphysical one.
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jaxemma
Posted 7/29/2008 12:56 PM (#7939 - in reply to #7928)
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Oh nice good to know.
Would you say Quantum Physics could be related to Metaphysics? From the schools perspective, I think they are.
How far along are you in your studies?
What do you plan to do when your finished?
I know I am like interviewing you! I am sorry!
Jax
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/29/2008 1:06 PM (#7941 - in reply to #7939)
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Meta-physics is, i feel, totally about Q-p, just from a different viewing point ... referred you to the 'our students' bio's as did not want to go on about me ... but since you ask,
have completed the works - the BMSc, MMSc, DD (Spiritual Counselling), and PhD (Parapsychology & Paranormal Sciences); though I did wrestle at various times with which award 'theme', or 'title' to work towards.

A bit more then [in interview mode now !]: in the UK I am qualified in social work, psychotherapy, university teaching and have an MBA .... I long sought for a doctorate programme and indeed had various offers to do PhDs in subjects ranging from social work, psychotherapy and education ... from traditional universities ... but none had the spiritual underpinnings that I was also seeking ... also, as a self-funding student with a family, finances were tight ... I have been a spiritual seeker for as long as I can remember .... impressively for UMS, and why I felt it was not simply a 'diploma mill' is, I have a body of published works that some PhD programmes here would have accepted for academic credit, indeed one was a PhD by published works .... UMS accepted no prior academic credit, all the units were required (or elective, as the case maybe) ... which was an example i felt of rigour ... and indeed found that doing all the units became something of a spiritual discipline, little bit like a mantra.

Sorry to go on about me, but I was just trying to respond openly to your seeking & searching.

Namaste
Paul
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jaxemma
Posted 7/29/2008 1:14 PM (#7942 - in reply to #7858)
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Thank you Paul!
I did check out the other students profile, It looks like everyone who goes here goes on to have a profession in their passion.
That is what I want.
I am from the state of Vermont in the U.S.
I have been looking into going to school for the metaphysical for awhile, I had looked into Barbara Brennan, but I didn't want to narrow all my education down to just healing. Do you feel that you still get a hands on experience here even though you don't meet with people for classes? I promise that is my last question and then we may be classmates!!!!
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/29/2008 1:21 PM (#7944 - in reply to #7942)
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Dear Jaxemma - good question, short answer no, but then I am very long distance !! Only really done through this Board, which can be quite challenging, as I am sure by now you have noticed !!!
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Tracy Martin
Posted 7/29/2008 4:29 PM (#7957 - in reply to #7858)
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The 'hands on' aspect of the program is up to the student. We do have meditations, exercises, projects, for the experiential aspect. Beyond that there is involvement with the Discussion Board, Starlight Journal, Retreats. There are many exercises in the program which you could practice with other people, the courses Leading A Meditation, Hypnosis II, and the light work you might do in the Transforming Personality course may involve other people in your life. Most students report that there is a general natural increase in their interactions with other people as they go through the program

Many of our students are already involved in metaphysical practices of their own, many have already written books, done personal spiritual counseling or divination. Others are looking to become involved in metaphysical practice, such as writing, running a retreat center, speaking. Some find themselves beginning their practices while still working on their degrees. A large portion of our students have found that the courses correspond with their personal journey and are seeking to deepen their own understanding, open up new channels of energy to bring more healing to themselves and their relationships, and to serve others as a light worker and healer.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 7/30/2008 3:54 AM (#7976 - in reply to #7957)
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Hello Tracy !
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jaxemma
Posted 8/4/2008 3:30 PM (#8503 - in reply to #7976)
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Thank you Tracy
for the response!
I am heavily thinking about it.
Can you sign up at any time or do I have to make my decision soon?
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Tracy Martin
Posted 8/4/2008 3:41 PM (#8508 - in reply to #7858)
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Hi Paul!

You can enroll at any time that is convenient for you. Check out the course excerpts on this website and listen to some of Christine's meditations - she has many posted on YouTube. I am also a student, in the Masters level now, and have enjoyed my experience thoroughly. I enrolled for personal growth reasons and have been surprised and delighted with what I have discovered through these courses and meditations.

We live and work in a town that seems to be a vortex of manfesting energy!

Looking back over your questions: There are simple exams. We have a team of three who work on the exams and will dialog with you as well as leave comments on your meditation experiences. This is a blessing! In the very beginning of the School, we rarely answered the exams, now we are able to because students requested more interaction. Also, others on staff are involved with reviewing some of the projects like the Creative Projects, Leading A Meditation, Hypnosis scripts, thesis, dissertations.

We do not have much on Quantum Physics at the moment, but I think we are in agreement with the concepts as presented in "What the Bleep Do We Know."
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/4/2008 10:36 PM (#8532 - in reply to #8508)
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And everyone there is really great; would love to meet you all one day, somehow !
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Tracy Martin
Posted 8/5/2008 3:32 PM (#8577 - in reply to #7858)
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The thing about the Retreats is that it is a blessing and honor for us to meet students, for all of us to get together. The first time I met students at the Mount Madonna  retreat was overwhelmingly joyful for me! Students of metaphysics and personal transformation are doing such courageous, creative, work. And some of this work is tough! I wish I had a mansion and millions of dollars just to bring you all together for the fun of it!
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Posted 8/5/2008 7:29 PM (#8579 - in reply to #8577)
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OKay let's all wish this T, so that we can help to bring this to a reality, perhaps all of our energies will manifest into something really fantastic....it only takes one to rise above and bring all the rest with them.

What a beatiful wish and idea....One I want to keep with me.

Love and Peace to you T....
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Paul Joseph
Posted 8/6/2008 4:53 AM (#8609 - in reply to #8577)
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'In my father's house are many mansions' ... did you see my post the other day about my dream ?!x
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jaxemma
Posted 8/8/2008 9:22 PM (#8871 - in reply to #7858)
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How many professors and teachers work here?
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Christine Breese
Posted 9/7/2008 10:24 PM (#10062 - in reply to #7858)
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Hey y'all,

I just happened to see this post, don't have time to do the forums much as UMS takes up all my time, but just have to let you know we're starting the mansion so you all can come and be together in person! We have just put a small down payment on a 20 acre property in Grass Valley and will be starting our retreat center there, called Starlight Mountain. We will be having classes, retreats and workshops there all year eventually, but mostly starting next summer of 2009. So we have heard you all in your many emails asking if there is a place you can come and study in person, and now the answer is YES! you can. Almost. We're working on manifesting this by summer 2009.

As for your question about why the tuition is so low for what you get, I have always had a concern for people who don't have a lot of money, and I never want to make UMS out of the reach of regular people who are barely making it from paycheck to paycheck, even though we have to charge just enough to make the expenses. UMS operates like a true non-profit organization that it is because no one is getting rich, not even me, and it was never meant to be a vehicle for riches. It is meant to be a vehicle for healing in this world, and if UMS has any extra money ever, it will use it to launch more ways to help the world, not make people rich, not even me. I didn't have much money when I was going through the healing process in my younger years, and I could barely afford to even buy a book, so i have a real soft spot for those in need.

As for your question about how many teachers are at UMS, there have been between 40-50 writers that put together the courses, and we picked people who specialize or were working in their fields that they wrote on. The amount of staff is about 26 people. We don't have people who are just "teachers" though becuase in order to keep the prices low we all wear all the hats, from being office people to spiritual counselors, so in a way everyone is a teacher but none of us are at the same time. What is required in our staff to work at UMS is a compassionate heart, and even if they are super academic, if the heart isn't open and warm, they don't fit in. Those are the only kind of people who can work at UMS because they will be gentle and loving with our students, and that is my biggest requirement of staff.

Anyway, I hope this answers some of your questions. Try some of our free courses at our website and see how you like them, then you'll know if this is for you. As for whether or not this degree is recognized, it is well recognized in spiritual circles and well respected. However, if you're applying for a job as a rocket scientist at NASA, this degree probably isn't going to help ya! It is only applicable to the audience it is intended for, which are spiritual seekers who are looking for answers about the deeper things in life. To them, this degree rocks!
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Paul Joseph
Posted 9/8/2008 6:25 AM (#10071 - in reply to #10062)
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Hello Christine - I do hope you are feeling better & recovering ... love & appreciations for all your fabulous UMS offerings ...

Paul x
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Paul Joseph
Posted 9/8/2008 6:33 AM (#10073 - in reply to #10071)
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Here's a good place to go (hope the photo comes out!)





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Teri
Posted 9/8/2008 11:38 AM (#10076 - in reply to #10073)
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Paul Joseph - 9/8/2008 3:33 AM

Here's a good place to go (hope the photo comes out!)




Where exactly is that located? I would love to go see it!!
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Posted 9/8/2008 1:34 PM (#10079 - in reply to #10062)
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I just have to say this was a beautiful response. Not very often do you find someone who is “truly” concerned about others over their concern for riches.
Blessings
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Paul Joseph
Posted 9/8/2008 4:32 PM (#10083 - in reply to #10076)
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The picture is from Hampstead Heath in London, Teri; check back on a thread, Astral Meditation London, for its background - that thread changed a bit as it went on (not least 'cos of Christine's accident became a healing circle) - but I posted some other pictures there too... do please let me know if you cannot locate - so glad you liked this one x

Sacred Groves 'n all

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Absolute Sovereigncy
Posted 1/16/2009 12:24 PM (#13158 - in reply to #7858)
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Don't worry about it. If you feel drawn to this University, "surrender, and be carried." Just do it, you'll love it. I have been enrolled since last March 2008. I have completed about 24 courses. Its about the process for me. Over all experience has been great. Can't wait to meet the staff and Christina Breese sometime in "the future." I made the right choice just based on my inner feeling that it was the right place. Just trust that inner feeling.
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Paul Joseph
Posted 1/17/2009 12:42 PM (#13179 - in reply to #13158)
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I agree with you: Absolute-ly - hello, by the way !
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Absolute Sovereigncy
Posted 1/23/2009 12:36 PM (#13360 - in reply to #7942)
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Hi Jaxemma,

I have a bachelors degree and masters degree from secular institutions. For me the process just separated me from myself. I am completely enjoying my courses at UMS. I am finding the meditations outstanding. Especially, lately, the ones on manifesting, and angels, and others took me completely by suprise. I listen to them all the time. I have found them incredible to listen to. Actually, for me they are life changing. They spiritually and in real time are quite transformative. USM lets me be myself.
And I already am thinking of ideas for my masters thesis and for the two doctorates, PhD and DD. I don't feel smothered or closed in by policies and I am being myself, not being sepatated from myself by the process. I just submitted my bachelors creative project (quite experiential and very "present moment"). If you are interested in metaphysics, UMS really fills in the gaps, just as they say. Like Christine Breese says, I find that this program "rocks!"

Peace within,

Robert


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